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Re: Tree Huggin' Hippy Granola's!


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Posted by NCWayne on May 23, 2012 at 11:10:26 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Re: Tree Huggin' Hippy Granola's! posted by Two Dogs on May 23, 2012 at 08:50:59:

Reading the rest of the replies I can understand your response, and it makes you a rarity when compared to the biking crowd around here. That said the majority of bikers want to be treated just like they are a motor vehicle, or better, when it comes to having their rights on the road. In that case, if they want to be treated like the people who are using the roads and actually paying taxes on the upkeep on the roads ((((including the instillation and upkeep on the biker exclusive perks like an automatic light changer))) what gives them the right to feel like everyone else is obligated to cater to them? I mean seriously, when I first learned to cross theroad by myself walking, and later learned to ride a bike, the vehicle larger than myself was ALWAYS given the right of way in the interest of my own safety. With these light changing buttons it takes the responsibility to do the common sense thing like walking the bike across the road when safe to do so, or riding it to a place that it's safe to cross when riding. Seriously, if you needed to be on the other side of the road you are either going to cross it or not, regardless of the light, and aren't going to do it until it's safe to do so. What makes you any different on a bike than someone else walking? That said the only places I have ever seen a 'walk' button it's at an intersetion within the city limits, or possibly at a school crossing where it is designed to make the crossing a bit safer for young kids that might not have the amount of good judgement required to cross on their own otherwise. For an adult that should never be an issue, either it's safe toi cross or it's not, you don't need help.

Taking this scenerio a bit further, large trucks are typically slower to get going to cross or get onto a road than even a bicycle, and they pay FAR MORE in road taxes than any other vehicle on the road. Even with all of the money paid in, I don't see any of them routinetly getting special 'I'm to slow to do this by myself without help' buttons, unless the light is in front of a fire station or something like that where speed is of the essence. Everywhere else they simply have to set and wait until the movement of their vehicle is safe. Again, if bikers want their bikes and movement on the road to be treated the same or better than auto's then they need to be held accountable for the same sets of responsible driving practices every one else is.

In other words the it used to be that people had to use a little common sense about things. Nowdays the "green" crowd is catered to almost to the detriment of themselves and the environnment. Like a lady on a radio call in program stated some years back during a discussion about the bikes around here riding several abreast, etc on the curvy, back country roads around here, 'If I'm on an empty road, doing the speed limit, and go around a curve to find a group of bikes blocking my lane (stopped or at a speed I can't quickly slow down to match), and there happens to be a car in the other lane, WHO DO YOU THINK I AM GOING TO HIT? Especially if I've got my kids in the car with me, you can bet it's not going to be the other car."

To me that just about says it all. Bikers using some common sense don't bother me at all, but the ones that have the sense of entitlement that everyone else on the road is supposed to bow to their every whim are the very ones that are riding on a wing and a prayer because one of these days that lady, me, or some other innocent driver, is going to be forced to make a life or death decision, and at least for me I know I'm not going to chose the death of myself or my child over some idiot who's stupid actions have put them at bottom of natures survival list.


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