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Re: Trees cut across property line by neighbors logger


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Posted by Billy NY on May 23, 2012 at 09:39:18 from (67.248.100.3):

In Reply to: Re: Trees cut across property line by neighbors logger posted by Nancy Howell on May 23, 2012 at 06:10:48:

You know, I'm not a big fan of the negative sides of things, and I'd much rather discuss or praise a contractor, individual worker or what have you for a job well done and appreciate conscious people for what they do, people know right from wrong, but it just seems people in this line of work have another ideology, that precedes the means and methods executed in the field, leading to the reputation most if not all of them are perceived to have. Personally, I think that is sad, because people know better than to be sloppy, steal, work in a reckless manner etc.

On the logging side of it, I can understand tight margins, extreme terrain, specialized equipment, the high risk inherent danger of doing this kind of work, but that is no excuse for a lot of the problems caused when they perform their work, much of it can be eliminated. Theft and trespassing, is just the pinnacle of the bad reputation underneath, which also applies to much of the contracting world aside from logging.

An owner needs to pin this down before allowing work to be performed, so it may increase the loggers price, and take a bit from your share, I'd much rather sign an agreement, clearly stating that all work will be supervised or inspected, and agree that some kind of restoration is done where possible, do not damage trunks of other trees, do not steal or go off the property, and duly compensate if necessary. The conditions vary, yes a tree may not fall where intended, perhaps causing some damage, nothing is perfect, but wrecked fences, utter negligence, and similar ? All things can be minimized, and yes unpredictable things will occur just the same.

There are some loggers that will do a much better job, and with all the mature trees in the area, there have been more harvests of timber locally. I have seen one or two outfits that do nice work, stacking tops and locating the piles strategically to not make more work, yet leaving the site cleaner and uniformly groomed to an acceptable level. No waste of logs, firewood logs brought to a header or central area where a person can process it. Maybe you pay more for that, it is equipment time, but while they are in there, mobilized on the site, that is the time, they have the right equipment, its money well spent if there is additional cost, and better to have that agreed upon up front then to wait til they are off site, leaving you to complain, like we do here on YT LOL !!!!!

At a friends 85 acre farm, the father had their pine forest logged, what a rotten mess and the shear amount of waste, I mean piles of logs, lots of hardwood, mill logs that were acceptable for lumber, they made shavings from the pine for horse bedding, roads, well its wet, swampy in there and they have been rutted for years, but the real mess was wasted wood. My friend has been in there with a JD2020, 3 pt boom salvaging the hardwood for firewood, the pine has already punked out. The ironic thing is that I see smaller mills that will saw the logs into lumber, then leave it outside stickered, but the waste, loss etc. follows the wood right to the mill and the stacks sit there for years and years, til its no good, so why harvest, spend all the money to let that happen, (photo below of a yard like that with my trusty ole F600 next to a weathered stack) I firmly believe the waste in that industry is beyond excess from what I see. Most mills move materials, but some keep stocks of logs they never get to saw. I can't claim to be well experienced or knowledgeable in that industry but it sure seems a lot is left to be desired.


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