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Re: Glad I don't own a Deere.........RANT and a half


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Posted by NCWayne on May 16, 2012 at 13:42:06 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Re: Glad I don't own a Deere.........RANT and a half posted by buickanddeere on May 16, 2012 at 12:24:57:

Let's see, what happens when someone askes me to stop and give them some free help.....I GIVE IT TO THEM.... Yes, I give it to them absolutely free, just like I give advice to people on here for free if I know the answer. I have always done it that way, and maybe that's why I'm not filthy, sticking rich right now because I actually care about my customer. In my mind what I may lose in the way of time and money for the few minutes of my time more than make up for itself in the word of mouth advertising it gains.

As far as walking into any other dealership asking for info, and getting it, I do it all the time. Most dealers don't mind helping independents because their guys spend enough time, and make enough money working on the new stuff that they can't, and have no desire to keep up with the older stuff. Without someone taking care of the older stuff they would lose out on millions a year in parts sales, and no one want's to lose money.

As far as 'getting out of my rut', I have done wiring far more complex than this. For instance I spent nearly 3 weeks completely rewiring the controls in an American crane. In that case I had to track down all of the intermittent shorts caused by the wrong wire being soaked in oil and the coatings breaking down and rerun those circuits, deal with industrial switches on everything (((that meant a stack about 4 inches high for the ignition switch, and they all had to be stacked properly and of the right type to work when stacked together, and then the same switches used on everything else that had to be done the same way)))). Not to mention having to work around parts of the system that were origionally automatic but no longer functioned because parts of the computer that controlled that weren't working anymore and the computer wasn't available. Because of that I had to make those funstions operate manually but still be interlocked with the other systems so the thing couldn't be overloaded. In other words this instrument cluster should be a piece of cake. Thing is for the crane I had a wiring diagram and an OEM that didn't mind sending schematics when requested. Nor did they mind putting a tech support guy on the line for an hour to figure out that the schematic sent out with the machine had an extra diode shown in it that didn't need to be there and was causing power to feed back into a control causing it not to function properly.

So, no, I have no problem repairing something if I have the proper diagnostic tools, but asking for someone to troubleshoot something without a wiring diagram is like asking someone to make a specific kind of cake with no ingredient list. While it may be possible with alot of expermentation, it would be alot easier with a recipe. That said it's kind of stupid for me to spend well over $100 for the CD or $200 plus for the paper manual (((((yes, been there, looked at that already, this is the kind of thing I do for a living remember))))) when the last dealer I called was nice enough to look at the manual while on the phone with me and tell me straight up that there was no wiring diagram in it at all.


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