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Re: Hauling Heavy Culvert, Take 2


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Posted by NCWayne on January 14, 2012 at 13:41:07 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Hauling Heavy Culvert, Take 2 posted by Dean on January 14, 2012 at 09:03:35:

Dean, I remember in your last post you were weighing several options and which one you went with was dependent alot on the costs involved. In that case I think your too worried about the cheapest part of the situation, ie the move, and not worried enough about the big expense which is the crane. Having dealt with quite a few heavy picks over the years setting equipment apart, I can tell you for a fact that a crane capable of doing what you want isn't going to be anywhere near cheap.

That said dependent upon the brand and type of crane available in your area as to what size/tonnage machine your going to need. There are wheeled hydraulic cranes, wheeled lattice boom cranes, hydraulic all terrain cranes, etc, etc, and each one has it's own peculatities when it comes to what it can and can't pick at a given radius. In other words you can't assume that because the load is less than 30 tons that you can get by with even a 50 ton machine for the reason just mentioned as well as due to the fact that the rated tonnage is typically going to be at a radius too close to the machine to do you any good given the size of the object your needing to pick. Too clearance issues, ground conditions, and other factors also come into play when your picking something that heavy. In other words ground conditions may prevent the crane from setting up within 40 feet of the hole the pipe is going in to insure it doesn't collapse the wall of the 'trench' and even if a 30 ton machine could do the pick close in your going to need a much larger machine to do it at the larger radius.

As a for instance I did some work several months back helping get some mounting brackets and two telementry antennas set on top of a water tower. The heaviest pick was less than 300 lbs but there was no other way to get the pieces to the top and set other than a crane. What we were looking at there was a height to the top of the tank of approx 253 feet with the crane setting with it's centerline at about a 250 foot radius. In other words the crane had to be able to set up, raise his boom to an angle that allowed it to clear the largest diameter of the tower, and put the tip more than 40 feet above the height of the tower to accomodate the additional height of the antennas and have room to spare. In order to do what we needed done at the radius and height required we had to use a 175 ton crane with 3 additional jib sections and the fold away offset jib also attached. It took the operator and crew nearly 4 hours hard at it to set up, another 4 in the dark to tear down, and about 4 hours of total use to get everything set. The cost for that machine for the day was over $7600.

Basically what I am trying to tell you is you need to take the time to call your local crane rental company and get them to send someone out to look at the site and give you an estimate on that part of the equation before you do anything else. A crane large enough to handle the load your looking at picking is going to have a minimum charge right off the bat. Too laying cribbing, and getting the machine setup to pick is also very laborous and time consuming, and dependent upon the crane type some more so than others. As a result the first set and breakdown up is usually included in the estimate but there is often additional tacked on for each time they have to break down the setup and move. In other words if your thinking they are going to set up, pick, breakdown, move, setup, pick, breakdown, move, numerous times to get the pipe close enough to where it goes to set it in the hole, all for the same price, it's most likely just wishful thinking.

Like I said if I were you this would be my first concern before I spend any more time on here asking for guestimations on the moving cost as I believe that will be the lesser part of the cost involved in what your wanting to do. Good luck.


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