Dave2, this is a tractor forum, and you bring up off topic subjects. I guess that leaves you open to replies. Let me share with you and others the words of Major General Smedley Butler, who at the time of his death with two congressional medals of honor, along with many other medals, was the most decorated Marine ever. "War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to be to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masases." I bring this up because while we should indeed reflect on the sacrifices of those who were killed and wounded in service of our country, we also should reflect on how those wars started. Nam was going on when I turned eighteen. Fortunately, I ended up with a high lottery number for the draft. I would not have gone. I knew at the time there was something wrong with the whole situation. Years later it comes out that the whole Gulf of Tonkin "incident" was a total lie. There was absolutely no reason for the United States to be involved in Nam. If you doubt this, please spend the time and do a little research. It is easy, search engines will bring up plenty of material that shows the falsehoods that were fed to the American public at the time. Now we are involved in another war of dubious origins. Iraq. We invaded it years ago now on the premise of "weapons of mass destruction" and so-called involvement in 9/11. George the second, admitted in his book, "Talking Points" that there were no WMDs. It has since come out that the majority of high-jackers of the planes used in 9/11 were Saudi Arabians. Curious indeed! Dave2, from your posts I assume that you are involved in military bases in Germany. Maybe you know why we have bases in Germany sixty plus years after the end of WW2. Maybe you know why the US has seven hundred (known) bases in the world. Maybe if the US didn't stick it's nose into other peoples business we wouldn't have the troubles we have. maybe we wouldn't have the crushing load of debt, the flight of jobs and business, the terrible unemploynment that plagues our country. I know I will probably get plenty of flack for writing this, but people need to wake up and quit believing what comes on the one-eyed cyclops. Ted
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