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Re: The SH that would not Fire


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Posted by Janicholson on November 03, 2013 at 06:16:53 from (74.60.94.18):

In Reply to: The SH that would not Fire posted by VA Gasman on November 03, 2013 at 04:09:13:

Resistors are not directional. The resistor is a piece of Nickle/Chromium wire and has no other features of electronic value.
Here is what is likely to have been the cause:
A coil that fails with an open primary circuit (in this case your first new 12 volt coil for use with an external resistor) can sputter and misfire as the broken wire makes and breaks contact. When it fails permanently it stays open (like a turned off switch)
New electronics and electrical devices fail most often in the first hours of operation. When it failed it was not conducting electricity. When a wire wound resistor is not under load (not connected in a live circuit) it will pass what appears to be full voltage to the other side of it. It will appear to have no resistance, and that is what you measured (12 on each side).

A bad coil can go bad in several other ways. One of them is shorted (internally layer of turns contacting another layer of turns, not to ground), and that causes excessive current draw and over heats the resistor as well as the coil, and burns points from excess current. Not your issue.

They can also make high voltage failures internally failing to produce enough voltage to fire the plugs. Not your issue.

They can also short to ground in the high voltage coils failing to get the spark out of the coil wire hole. Not your issue.


They can also carbon track on the outside and jump voltage to the primary terminals (closest path) or the case. This is usually caused by dirt buildup on the tower, or a bad set of wires that cause excessive output voltage. Not your issue.

I hope this helps. If you still have the resistor, an ohm meter should show only one or two Ohms across it.

Only one possible way that my diagnosis could be in error is if the tractor engine stopped with the points open. If they did, the same 12v on each side of the resistor findings would have happened. inline 4 cylinder engines almost always stop when turned off at on of two places.
and that is usually with the pistons part way down the cylinder (due to compression stroke bounce). Thus the points are closed.
I hope this is understandable. A look at a picture of an ignition coil guts would help.
Jim


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