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Re: 560 power steering issues


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Posted by bc on March 28, 2008 at 10:31:39 from (66.140.173.77):

In Reply to: Re: 560 power steering issues posted by 560 in KS on March 28, 2008 at 08:31:47:

If you are going to tinker with this then you need the I & T manual and maybe go to ebay to look for the repair manual besides the parts diagrams on the website so you can identify where all the check valves are and how it flows. The lift is probably working of the second pump which is why I suggested piping from that system over to the power steering. The guage and fittings aren't easy to find. The tractor supply/farm stores around here don't carry them. I found an industrial place had them for under $20. I've seen people use black pipe but they are hyd. psi rated and could blow up. Hyd fittings to do all that can get expensive($4 to $10 each) which is why I haven't bought the setup and because there are multiple sized lines which need different types of fittings and some aren't in a good place to add a tee etc. The dealer may have them. You have to look at yours to see where you can tie into. I would start with the lines coming off of the power steering pump and going to and from the steering column. That is why I said it may be just as easy to break a line loose to see what is pumping through it.

The dealer won't rebuild them but look for a hydraulics shop in your area to price a rebuild or to buy a rebuilt or check on the internet for a rebuilt one. They do get expensive. If you are rich, get a pump. If you are poor like me with a little mechanical ability then try to isolate the problem first before buying parts. You have to remove the pump before you can really tell if there is something holding the relief valve open or if the spring is broke or an oring is out. I wanted to check my flow divider valve but the hydraulics shop said it would cost $120 just for them to set it up on their bench to test it. On mine, I ended finding a piece of metal under the ball in the relief valve in the draft control housing.

I don't have enough experience with it to help you anymore on a 560. If you are rich or if you have to have it running in a particular time frame for a job, you can just start replacing parts. I can't take mine to the dealer to let them troubleshoot and flow rate mine cause they want about $300 to truck it plus all their shop rate and expense. Otherwise it is a matter of isolated which part it may be, take it off, check it out, and clean it up. Through this board, I was able to narrow the problem down and then started looking at the easy stuff first. Don't know how common things are but pumps do wear out and relief valves can get stuck or a spring break or a check ball not seat right. You would be surprised at the amount of sludge and crud I have found in places like the draft control housing.

A lot of depends on what you are going to use it for. Heavy duty plowing and disking on 5000 acres or loader use or light mowing or for a parade, etc. I've don't have finger steering(more like old grain truck steering) but I can move bales around now and it isn't worth to me replacing a probably old and worn pump for $500. The hand pump is probably weak also but that is another $500 to replace. I could spend $10,000 on the beast to get it to work like new but I wasn't looking for a new one when I bought this fixer upper. I have a lot of blowby but I'm not going to spend a few grand to overhaul it, just keep adding stp. The forward gear on my forward/reverser would kick out of gear all the time (about $2000 for parts) but I just put a long bolt with a rubber hose on it bolted down below the dash panel. In forward I just push the lever over and behind the bolt and it doesn't pop out of gear anymore.


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