Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  
Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Board

Re: F20/F30/M


[ Expand ] [ View Replies ] [ Add a Reply ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by Guy Fay on June 28, 2006 at 19:50:04 from (24.177.121.73):

In Reply to: Re: F20/F30/M posted by CNKS on June 28, 2006 at 18:08:56:

The F-30 had several problems according to IH, mainly:

1. Low power to weight ratio- it was heavy for the HP, which lead to:

2. High cost- IH was putting a lot of iron into the horsepower range, tractors essentially are coseted out "by the pound". This led to:

3. Low sales. Sales were only about 1/5th of the F-20 (@30,000, compared to 154,398 for the F-20, and @147,000 for the F-12/14), which fed back into cost, of course.

The F-30 did have some things going for it- high crop clearence, strong drivetrain (helped somewhat by that low power)

The way to eliminate the high weight, low horsepower, was to go to an F-12 type chassis in the F-20 size, and stick a big motor in front of it. While the M did start out as the F-20 engine with the F-12 type chassis scaled up, the sales department sent it back several times for revision, mainly to get power up and weight down (in fact, the sales department sent the tractor back several times for less weight, more power).

So what you got was the M, which took the old F-20 and F-30 market, the H, which took the F-12/14 market plus some of the old F-20 market, and the A and B, which took IH into a whole new market, plus some of the low end F-12 market (the F-12 was actually a bit much tractor for the low end in the 1930s, and really, really got chased out of the low end by the Allis B. The F-12 was repositioned as a light 2 plow tractor by the horsepower increase with the change to the 14.)



Replies:




Add a Reply

:
:
: :

:

:

:

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Box Plow Blues - by Tom Schwarz. One of the first implements most tractor owners obtain is the box plow. For very little money, this piece of equipment promises to plow and flatten any hill or vale on your ranch road or farm. At least that's what I thought! As simple as a box plow appears, it can be rather challenging to make work correctly. In our sandy soils of Florida, traction is king. You can never have wide enough tires or heavy enough weights to get all the traction you want … unless you own a monster tractor. U ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: Oliver 550 Diesel runs like a watch three point hitch pto engine gone threw about two hundred hours ago nice clean tractor [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy