Re: Poor excuse for tractors

Posted by Shultzy on December 08, 2002 at 12:19:18 from (12.172.241.124):

In Reply to: Poor excuse for tractors posted by Shultzy on December 06, 2002 at 18:30:05:

Glad to see some response to this one. Wasn't trying to get a bind in anyone's shorts - just expressing what we've delt with and the frustrations. Both are diesle's - 310 german and 361. The comparison I guess I was thinking about in my mind on low end torque is an experience we had this past summer with our 930 case. Although slightly more cubes than the 806, it's still in the same ball park on the HP ratings. We have a hill we need to travel when hauling wagins on the road, and the 806 which is turned up a bit over stock will climb this hill in high gear with an empty hay wagon behind it - but only if you have it completely hammered at the bottom of this hill - and you still need to pull the torque 3/4 up the hill. This past summer I was about to go up the same hill with the baler and two empty wagons hooked behind the 930 and the milk truck was coming down the hill - so I laid off and went down to basically an idle when he passed me at the bottom. I thought about shifting down, but thought I'd see if it would hack it. By the top if the hill we were back up to full speed and I never shifted a bit. The old case doesn't need a torque - it does just fine without it. Our 970 and 1070 are similar - we shift the powershift to change speed for operating conditions and rarely because of a lack of power. Our farm is has a lot of hills - some steep and some rolling.

Our 930 was bought new back in the 60's but the 970 and 1070 were both bought used just shortly befor ethe two IH's we're comparing here- so I do not agree with the "prior maintenance" theory too much - although I do agree that it can be a factor. The 756 is about the same shape as the one used at Nisbet(for the TP from Central PA:), but I will admit the 806 is a little rougher - although I personally like it better than the 756. The 756 is just way to much rearend for that engine in my opinion, and I'm not sure that shifter was a big improvement.

As for parting with them - we've put too much $ into them to recoup it in reselling them - so we'll probably just keep them around and see if they can't earn their keep here after a while. We are optimistic that some day we'll figure out what all the IH diehards have been saying all along - maybe they'll eventually just grow on us :) But it has definitely not been love at first drive.

As for driving stick - both of my vehicles are stick. I can use an H or M with a PTO driven piece of equipment and shift gears without grinding a one - but just can't pull that stund off with these newer ones - in the field, on the road, anywhere. Maybe you have some sort of fancy double clutch and a half method that you use that works - if so please let me know as it would really help me keep my sanity.

Have fun and keep safe.

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