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Re: M Hydraulic Questions


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Posted by Dan Kelley on April 18, 2002 at 09:12:02 from (216.229.35.84):

In Reply to: M Hydraulic Questions posted by Kilian in SW WI on April 17, 2002 at 08:54:58:

I have a narrow-front M with a Farmhand front loader. It really works well. It has its own reservoir and a PTO driven pump. Of course, since I do not have live-PTO, the hydraulics cut out when I put the clutch in. Be sure your wide-front will clear the arms of the loader, before you invest cash.

As I said in another posting, I would like to go with live hydraulics. I read one "yes" on the M&W pump being used for loaders, and one "no." I would think that the whole point of an aftermarket live-hydraulic pump would be for things such as a front-loader. That's just conjecture, though. Could someone confirm?

I heard another solution to the live-hydraulic problem. The Super-M distributer-drive pump almost fits the M, and can be made to work using the following procedure.

1) Test fit the pump and note which hole does not line up.

2) Install a bolt into the hole that will not be used and cut it flush with the housing.

3) Test fit the pump again and mark the new hole.

4) Drill and tap the new hole.

5) Mount the pump and be about your business.

Personally, I would not do this. There are many pitfalls that can bite you. You need to be reasonably accurate in your machine work. The castings were never really designed for this, so the possibility exists for future cracks. A good Super-M pump is likely to be as expensive as an M&W pump that is designed to fit the existing bolt pattern. Still, I mention it in case you find an inexpensive Super-M pump, and feel comfortable drilling and tapping your existing castings.


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