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37chief

05-24-2008 09:16:42




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The chain I use to tie down my tractor's is in very poor shape. I wanted to up grade my chain. Harbor freight has what they call grade 43 chain load limit 4,500 lbs. will this work for tie down chains? How will any inspection know what this chain is rated at if I am ever chaecked? Stan




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BillinCentralMO

05-25-2008 19:19:15




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
You should consider this. The chain fails , someone is killed. There will be an investigation. You could go to prison. This type thing happens frequently. Remember the Great White fire. The feds went after all involved.Buy the best chain available. You don't want to be going to the Prom with Big Jim.



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john in la

05-25-2008 04:33:17




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
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All chains are marked with a stamp or tag. If the stamp or tag is not read able then the chain drops to class 30 no matter what the grade is.

You can not use the chains load limit given by the manufacture. You need to use the chart above because this is what the DOT will use.

There are rules to how many chains you need on each piece hauled. Follow the link to a complete set of the rules. §393.Subpart I... includes §393.100 to §393.136

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TominKy

05-25-2008 02:35:05




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
The Harbor Freight store near me sells 5/16 grade 70 chain in 20 foot lengths with hooks on both ends( working load- 4700lbs ) for $25. The same chain at TSC is $55, and comes from the same source.



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johndeeregene

05-24-2008 17:37:52




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
as a flatbedder for over 18 years i can guarrenty that the DOT do look at chains. a grade 70 is marked, an you must run a equal hook an binder. if there is ANY tress marks on the chains or hooks the working load limit of that one is 0. the workin load limit of the total of the chains must be equal to 1/2 of the weight of the article that it is holding.
if you dont have enough chain or hooks or binder, an they get ya, you will wish you had. you will be fined, shutdown, an made to go get the proper equipment. that is if they are being jerks, which most of the time if they stop ya they will be. DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH JUNK CHAINS. i wouldnt want to be around ya if you have to make a quik stop, if you have junk chains.
johndeeregene

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oleblu

05-24-2008 17:11:34




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
I just got a 24", grade 70, 3/8" chain at a truck parts place for $54.00. It" the ONLY type and size of chain I"ll use for my piece of mind. Might change my mind about that when I get older and can"t lug it around anymore!



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JMS/.MN

05-24-2008 15:54:42




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
Nationwide CDL rules require chain tiedowns on 4 corners, and I believer it is 70 chain. Call your state DOT, or post on the tractor transporting board here.



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jlmtractor

05-24-2008 13:46:13




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
it all depends on what you are tying down with the type and strength of chain. lets say you were tying down a tractor that wieghted six thousand pounds and you only put one chain that was rated for 4500 across the draw bar. well that is no where near enough chain. but if you put one chain on each front corner and the draw bar with each chain rated at 4500 pounds. that would work because every chain is holding part of the load and 4500 times 3 is 13500 which is over double the weight of the tractor i used as an example. so it all depends on how it is tied down and how many chains used.

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Frank A

05-24-2008 12:48:34




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
It's been awhile, but I believe transport chain is stamped.



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GeneMO

05-24-2008 12:26:38




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
John Deere did have some good prices on chains.
When I bought them, they were American chains and less than the farm and home Chinese chains.

That was several years ago though


gnee



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RodInNS

05-24-2008 11:25:42




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
Grade 70 Transport Chain. It's available at any Parts for Trucks type of store... heavy truck parts. You'll probably find that it's every bit as cheap as Walmart is for the garbage chain. That is one area you do not want to skimp on. Get the right chain and be done of it.
I think the last lengths I bought a couple years ago were ~30 bucks for probably a 20' length?? Dunno if that sounds right to others, but that's what my memory's telling me. I was surprised at the price since I have paid a lot more for good chain from other suppliers.

Rod

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Bruce Hopf

05-24-2008 10:51:42




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
Use nothing but Grade 70 chain, and hooks. If you ever get stopped by the DOT, they will throw the book at you. Fines up here in Ontario, Canada, start at $475.00. If you have 4 chains x $475.00, do the math. 5/16 grade 70 chain should be OK. 3/8s is even better in grade 70. It also depends on how deep your pocket book is, if you want to use that other chain you where asking about. Hope this helps. Bruce.

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coloken

05-24-2008 10:42:46




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
I'm thr guy that recomended harbor freight tools for some people, and some places, but i think I would go some place else for a tie down chain You need a safety factor of several times there.



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old

05-24-2008 09:58:46




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
Go with as heavy as you can find and do not skimp on chain. Think about it. If its rated at only 4500lbs then its to light for tie down a tractor that is even close to that weight. If a chain brakes and the tractor falls off the trailer do you want to be the one who has to pay for that car that the tractor hit and also do you want to be the one who has to explain why some one is now dead??. All my chains are 3/8 high test chain and I will not use any thing but that type.

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paul

05-24-2008 09:44:28




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
I have one of those, used it to pull out the field cultivator when I got stuck. It broke so easy I didn't even know it busted..... Was just idling the tractor forward, never even felt a tug.

The 70 grade is the thing to buy, those work.

--->Paul



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Dan-IA

05-24-2008 09:37:19




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 Re: Tie down chain in reply to 37chief, 05-24-2008 09:16:42  
I don't think they fuss with the rating as long as it has a chain on it that they can see. The factory safety chains on my 200bu wagons looks like my dog's leash.

I bought the heaviest logchain I could find at a walmart, it was rated for 1400lbs. But it's really neat and shiny and very visible, no complaints from the fuzz around here!



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