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JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue

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AJNeedsHelp

05-05-2008 14:43:21

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Honestly I am pretty clueless about this all - but we were given a JD 111 Ride on mower and here are the issues I need help with to get it going. Issue No. 1 - Apparently there is an electrical issue because they said the battery was just replaced but I can"t get ti started without jumpstarting it - and then it is dead as soon as I turn it off.

Issue No. 2 - The PTO is having issues. When I first get it running - I can engage the PTO using the switch - the blades run for about 30 seconds then they quit and I can"t get the switch to engage them again. Unless I shut it off, jump it, and engage the switch again.

If I need to take it to a repair shop I guess I will - I just wanted to see how serious this was and if it is something that i could be guided through with a little help.

I will greatly appreciate any help anyone can offer. Thank you.

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2t2@ia

05-05-2008 20:09:00

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to AJNeedsHelp, 05-05-2008 14:43:21

I think that the various posts have given good advice. I had some of those troubles. The fix in my case was to tighten the right rear engine mounting bolt that holds the ground cable.

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bgoathill

05-05-2008 19:10:24

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to AJNeedsHelp, 05-05-2008 14:43:21

I had the exact same problem with my 111. Battery was bad. PTO would kick in but then the juice left over from jumpstarting would run out then PTO wouldn't go in. Just because battery is new doesn't mean it's good. You occasionally get a bum one.

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Glen Mancell

05-05-2008 15:21:00

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to AJNeedsHelp, 05-05-2008 14:43:21

My neighbor had same problem and corrected it by replacing the voltage regulator

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John B. NE Ind

05-06-2008 08:25:41

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to Glen Mancell, 05-05-2008 15:21:00

The pto has to have power to stay engaged. The pto as you call it is just electrical magnets. If I remember correctly, you should hear the magnets engage [click] when you switch on the power even when the motors not running [with a good battery, the battery charger on or the jumper cables connected]. If you leave the jumper cables on I'm guessing the blades will continue to turn after starting. I think as stated that it has a bad battery or bad conections. Try putting it on a battery charger and after a short charging period, start the tractor with the charger still on. Even if the battery is weak, it should stay running with the mower running. If so, you may want to buy a new battery. If the battery is fully charged, even if the voltage regulator is bad it should run and engage the blades. The only thing that would happen is that after a while the battery would lose its charge. This post is from past experience on a JD 111 I once had. Good luck.

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AJNeedsHelp

05-05-2008 18:49:36

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to Glen Mancell, 05-05-2008 15:21:00

Hey...thanks for the info...would that also be affecting the problem with the PTO issue? i guess my next issue would be finding info on how to replace the voltage regulator....any good manual or how-to sites?

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buickanddeere

05-05-2008 14:59:51

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to AJNeedsHelp, 05-05-2008 14:43:21

1-800-522-7448

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Catalog: 1699 Grid: C23 Section: 40 Page: 1
Catalog Name: 108, 111, 111H and 112L Lawn Tractors (with 30-Inch & 38-Inch Mower Deck)
Page Name: MAIN WIRING HARNESS AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEM (111H)
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. REMARKS
1 19H1919 CAP SCREW 2 1/4" X 5/8"
2 14H786 NUT 6 1/4"
3 AM101767 GROUND CABLE 1 (SUB FOR AM38796)
4 24H1287 WASHER 1 9/32" X 5/8" X 0.065"
5 AM103290 SOLENOID 1 (INCLUDES AM105171 SOLENOID, M46449 BOOT, (2) 14H882 NUTS AND INSTRUCTION SHEET) (SUB FOR AM53945)
6 03H1893 BOLT 2 1/4" X 1/2"
7A AM38574 CABLE 2 (SUB AM101623)
7B AM101623 BATTERY CABLE 2
8 M66044 TIE BAND 1
9 AM38783 WIRING LEAD 1 (INCLUDES DIODE)
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. REMARKS
10 14H611 NUT 2 5/16"
11A AM38713 SWITCH 1 -295000 NEUTRAL START
11B AM104884 SWITCH 1 295001- NEUTRAL START, (SUB FOR AM100109)
12 37H43 SCREW 2 -295000 NO. 8 X 3/8"
M80705 RIVET 1 295001-
13 M84739 CLIP 2
14 AM38716 WIRING HARNESS 1 -257000
AM39478 WIRING HARNESS 1 257001-290000
AM100139 WIRING HARNESS 1 290001- (NLA)
15 AM38227 SWITCH 1 IGNITION
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. REMARKS
16 24H1806 WASHER 1 37/64" X 7/8" X 0.036"
17 M46820 NUT 1
18 M40718 KEY 1
19 AM38228 ROCKER SWITCH 1 PTO
20 M83733 NUT 1
21 AM33218 WIRING LEAD 1
22 AM33621 CIRCUIT BREAKER 1

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AJNeedsHelp

05-05-2008 18:51:22

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to buickanddeere, 05-05-2008 14:59:51

Hey...thanks for the info...I see this looks like a parts list for my mower...but what exactly am I looking at?...and are you suggesting a fix for this? Just looking for a little clarification...thanks.

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buickanddeere

05-06-2008 04:51:27

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Re: JD 111 Electrical / PTO Issue in reply to AJNeedsHelp, 05-05-2008 18:51:22

You need a multimeter and a wiring diagram from 1-800-522-7448. Then trace through the circuits. Taking guesses and replacing "this and that" until the problem goes away is not trouble shooting. It's an expensive waste of time.

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