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On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts please)

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Damp;Dservice

04-09-2008 21:58:26

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I have been toying with the idea of getting one of these, coating it in tar and heavy plastic and burying all but two feet of it and making a storm shelter out of it, I live on a hill with very good drainage and I live in South Dakota, (where moisture is just another word in the dictionary) Is it sturdy enough? I think it would be cheap storage and protection if we ever get a tornado. Ive got access to a backhoe, so digging the hole is easy, just wish I could build a basement for the same cost.

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oscar80

04-11-2008 15:17:04

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

Be careful with shipping containers. My sister backfilled there on top with about a foot of dirt and it bowed the roof. The containers are designed to stack but they dont have all the weight on the floor it goes to specific areas. Hard to explain. they are also having huge problem with moisture. This is after it has been vented and painted.

Dave

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dr sportster

04-10-2008 14:32:24

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

I think you will be creating a confined space that needs to be tested with a sniffer before entry and purged etc.They are made of corten steel and resist sea air very well.

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Tim Shaw

04-10-2008 10:53:24

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

Divine Concrete at Bonesteel, SD sells them for about $2200. Free delivery up to 150 miles.
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2x4

04-10-2008 23:13:53

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Tim Shaw, 04-10-2008 10:53:24

was at Nashville auction today - new ones 20 ft brought $2200 apiece & one man bought 5.

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j.w.

04-10-2008 10:13:35

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

Have several like 7 of these units buried in the ground for under ground hunting pits. Have never had any backfilling problems and they are coated with a paint that resist rust. Best thing in the world is to sit two of them about 24 ft apart then use bar joist and make a nice shed inbetween. Works out for cheap storage

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Marlowe

04-10-2008 09:35:36

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

i just have to ask why don't you have basements under the house?.

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Damp;Dservice

04-10-2008 18:26:33

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Marlowe, 04-10-2008 09:35:36

Marlowe said: (quoted from post at 09:35:36 04/10/08) i just have to ask why don't you have basements under the house?.

Believe me, I would have loved to put a basement under my house, but when I set up there were no houses here on the place I could move into so I had to set a double-wide, always had the Idea I would build next to it and then sell it..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... yea right, two kids, one wife later. I dont see anything big happening for along time now..... Love them more than anything, so need a place to protect them from bad weather. Thanks for link to bonesteel, Need to check on mileage, Im about 100 miles past their 150.

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Damp;Dservice

04-10-2008 08:20:51

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

Thanks for all the imput guys, Container prices here are around 3k, so maybe the precast deal would be better, spend the the money once and forget it, I knew you guys would have some answers, Thank you!

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Garry in OK

04-10-2008 08:12:06

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Steven f/AZ, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

I have both a poured concrete cellar and a freight container.

The freight container is the most tight, dry, dust free storage you'll find for the money. I'd use each for what they were intended for though.

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greygoat

04-10-2008 06:57:38

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

On Highway 63, somewhat south of Kirksville, MO
I saw an outfit that makes precast septic tanks,
and feed troughs, had a precast tornado shelter
that you put in the ground, had precast steps
that went down to it. Looked pretty nice N safe!
(The demonstrater was sitting above ground, west
of the highway)
Also saw , on another website, last year, a photo
of a farmer who made a schoolbus camper,engine out
pushed it into a big trench, covered it, with
steps going down to the back door, called it "the
honeymoon suite", but was a tornado shelter.

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glennster

04-10-2008 05:35:08

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

how about something like this, precast unit, all set up, dig a hole and drop er in!!

tornado shelter

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kyplowboy

04-10-2008 02:32:14

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

I don't know much about ship'n containers, but round here there are alot of fiberglass storm shelters. Round here they are easier to come by than a good container. Less work than coat'n a ship'n box. They are real cheap and not to big. Should last a good while.

Dave

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Billy NY

04-09-2008 22:59:48

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

You should check to see what a pre-cast concrete vault would run, delivered and set in the hole you prepare, that container is not a bad idea, but for longevity, and similar dollars, they go for a few thousand don't they ? Pre-cast concrete may work, and live longer underground.

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dave2

04-09-2008 22:48:08

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ple in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

I'd say go for it. Keep the door hardware oiled (even when you think it don't need it) and maybe , as an extra precaution, a layer of gravel underneath and fill the sides with the same (maybe add a layer of styrofoam for insulation and winter expansion of the dirt). No moisture at all then, and you won't have to trim weeds. Shouldn't have so much pressure on the sides, and anything from behind would just push it out of the hole (may want to think about and prevent that when installing).

Good Luck,

Dave

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john in la

04-09-2008 22:30:22

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

"Is it sturdy enough?"

A container is strong enough that you can load them down with heavy product and then stack them 5 or 6 high and the bottom one will hold all the weight of the other containers on top of it. I do not think you could pile enough dirt on it for the integrity to be jeopardized.
And since you live in a area where moisture is just another word in the dictionary you are good to go.

It might be best to bury the whole container a foot or two below ground level and then make a concrete stair well down to the doors.

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Kansas Cockshutt

04-09-2008 22:35:52

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to john in la, 04-09-2008 22:30:22

Hmmm, well we agree about being strong in compression. The problem is the dirt is not on top, it is pushing in from the sides. Have you ever seen a retaing wall without a good footing get pushed over by the dirt it is trying to hold back? Or a basement wall cave inwards? All I am saying is any rust over time will damage the metal plus all the force from the fill around the container is a recipe for someone to get hurt down the line.

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Kansas Cockshutt

04-09-2008 22:24:52

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Re: On the subject of shipping containers (your thoughts ... in reply to Damp;Dservice, 04-09-2008 21:58:26

I have one. They are strong in compression (things stacked on top) but the sides can be dented.

I don't know how cheap they are in your area but I got a second hand pre-fab concrete storm shelter that you can also use as a root celler very, very reasonable. Then no worries about the rotted metal container collapsing- or God help you slowly suffocating under the weight of all that dirt if you are in it when it caves.

In my opinion the metal container would be fine for awhile but over time it would start rotting from the outside no matter how good a job you do with the tar; then you just have a rusted collapsed tin can in the ground. Kinda like an old t-post you can push over. Good luck.

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