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putting dairy steers on full feed

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Dave from MN

04-08-2008 05:53:22




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Well, time to pull the 500-600##ers off grower and hay and pour the feed to them. I know I should have startes 100# earlier, but I didnt.
Any advice on the change in feeding progression, should I increase the feed eachday in incremments to free choice, or just start keeping the feeder full. The have been getting 5-6# of 16% grower each day with free choice hay.




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Dairy Farmer in WI

04-08-2008 18:36:20




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to Dave from MN, 04-08-2008 05:53:22  
i know someone who just ( or used to) raise only feeder steers. he said whole kernal corn and NO hay makes them gain fastest. i have no idea how much but it works. i plan on doing that with the steers i have
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gene bender

04-08-2008 10:15:19




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to Dave from MN, 04-08-2008 05:53:22  
With the price of corn and current price and the futures prices are you sure you want to pour any more money thru cattle?



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Dave from MN

04-08-2008 11:03:59




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to gene bender, 04-08-2008 10:15:19  
Well, if I can get them to a decent weight by dec, If I could sell the 3 red holstiens for a profit I would, doesnt pay to send 3 600 pound dairy steers the way the market is, I wouldnt get near as much as someone sending 30. I should be able to direct market the meat to frinds and family when it is butcher time. Looking for a nice butcher size rather than a huge steer to send to the sales barn. The finisher bought was $132/1000#. Co op said to add 10# of finisher to each 5-6# grower ration I have been giving them for a week, then over 3 weeks increase by 1/2# every other day( all finisher, no grower) till the quit eating it all and then feed free choice finisher. I will let them have all the $1.50 hay I have left to add to their intake.

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JHef

04-08-2008 17:34:49




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to Dave from MN, 04-08-2008 11:03:59  
I'd pour the hay to them.
Dave from MN,Could you please email the contact you have for the 1850 MFWD?Thanks!



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DoubleR

04-08-2008 09:30:46




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to Dave from MN, 04-08-2008 05:53:22  
I finish about 10 holstein steers a year. I buy them at about 250# when they are done with milk and started on feed. When I get them home I gradually feed them until they are eating all they want, takes about a month. First cutting hay and ground eared corn and about a # a day of Purina 32% mixed in. At about 500 # I reduce the hay and push the grain, what ever they want.At about 700# I change over to 42% supplement and start dumping whole shelled corn in the mixer. I start with about 300-400# of shelled corn per 4000# batch. I gradully increase the shelled corn till they are about a 1000# and then feed just whole shelled corn with 1# per day of the purina 42% supplement. I give them very little hay by that time. They ALWAYS have a ample supply of freash water. I send them to market at approx 14months of age at approx 1400#. I have alot of happy custermers that buy from me every year. Not saying this is the best way but it works for me. Hope this helps.

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GeneMO

04-08-2008 20:36:02




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to DoubleR, 04-08-2008 09:30:46  
I have no experience with whole shelled corn, but the best cattle feed in the world is ground ear corn !!! Just not readily available any more.


Gene
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LAA

04-08-2008 07:51:57




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 Re: putting dairy steers on full feed in reply to Dave from MN, 04-08-2008 05:53:22  
What kind of hay? What ration are you looking at and what is your target weight. What rate of gain do you want. If you have a corn based ration in mind and your looking at full grain/supplement feed being approximately 3% of live weight that means you have been feeding around 1% of live weight and should take at least 21 days to add the difference. If your taking these calve to finish at around 13-1400 pounds I would definitely look at a cheaper grower ration until around about 1000 pounds -- like alfalfa hay and cracked or hole corn or ground oats, corn and hay. Those 600 pound calves should do real good on about 12% protein which good alfalfa will balance a grain ration to.

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