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Dryland Alfalfa or Grass Hay

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PatMz

03-26-2008 18:50:57




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I live about 50 miles south and east of Denver. With hay prices up and not looking like they'll come back down soon I'm considering planting some alfalfa or other hay crop. We get about 14-15 inches of precipitation a year, with very little from June through October.

What kind of yields could someone expect, in tons per acre? I know I can realistically expect one cutting, two in realy really really wet year.

OR, and probably preferable for me and my horses since I don't normally feed alfalfa, does anyone have recommendations for native grasses that will make good hay, and yield fairly well? If I do grass I'm strongly considering stacking it loose to see how that goes. Just can't depend on Wayne next door keeping his baler running for me!

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Chad Franke

03-27-2008 08:09:32




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 Re: Dryland Alfalfa or Grass Hay in reply to PatMz, 03-26-2008 18:50:57  
How good of feed do you want? Our place NE of Denver is in CRP, mostly switchgrass, some side oats gramma, some others, but mostly switchgrass, sandy soil, same precipitation (but more like 8-11 inches the last few years). We've been authorized to cut the CRP in drought years and gotten a fair amount of "cow hay" (worth a lot at the times when there isn't anything else...) and had decent regrowth the next year. We also used to cut needle and thread grass for hay growing up, not huge yeilds, but get it before it goes to seed and it's decent feed. Again, that's in sandy soil, I don't think needle and thread likes heavier soils...you might talk to your county extension office, CSU does some good research into low-water crops.

Grandpa used to raise alfalfa, he got 3 cuttings a year, but that was before my time, back when Mom was a kid...still got a couple of the tractors with drawbars worn halfway through from pulling rakes all summer long, sent one of the balers for scrap last year, the cast iron teeth cam was worn all the way through...rest of the baler wasn't in as good of shape...

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PatMz

03-27-2008 08:23:30




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 Re: Dryland Alfalfa or Grass Hay in reply to Chad Franke, 03-27-2008 08:09:32  
I'm looking for decent quality. In nearly 40 years around horses I've found that they can thrive and do well without spending for the so-called "horse quality" hay. I figure the prima-donna show folks (and dairymen who need it) can buy that.

This winter I've been feeding 3x4x8 squares I bought near Platteville from Ackerman. It's the year's first growth from pasture on a cattle ranch. Well put up, weathertight bales for the most part. It ranges from native short grasses, to brome, to what looks like little bluestem, with a bunch of other stuff including a few weeds. The horses find it real palatable, and have been doing well on that.

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Allan In NE

03-27-2008 06:42:42




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 Re: Dryland Alfalfa or Grass Hay in reply to PatMz, 03-26-2008 18:50:57  
Pat,

You can just about count on a "bumper crop" of 1 ton per acre happening one year out of every 7 or so.

Everything else is "take what ya get" and many years, ya get squat. :>(

Allan



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PatMz

03-27-2008 08:26:48




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 Re: Dryland Alfalfa or Grass Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2008 06:42:42  
Yeah, I kind of suspected that. Just needed confirmation I guess.

On the upside, I do get enough grass on 40 acres to feed five horses from April through October, and sometimes clear up to Thanksgiving.

I think my better option is to improve my pasture management. A couple cross fences, and mow the bad stuff. At least then I dont have to buck bales or stack hay.



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