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How to check out a tractor with a loader

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Blue3992 (N Ill

03-12-2008 16:59:39




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I may go look at a small (45 Hp) gas tractor this weekend. It has a front-end loader on it, which would be handy as heck around my place.

I once saw a friend buy an old Case front end loader tracotr for a "great deal." Turns out that the thing was so worn out, that it couldn"t push anyhthing. You could try to plow snow with it, and it didn"t even have enough oomph to push snow. It would just sit there. Had enough power to move itself around, but that was about it. I think the clutches were all burnt up.

How do I avoid this when looking at a tractor? Someone suggessted I should drive the loader up against a tree and see if I can spin the tires, but that sounds kind of abusive. I thought maybe I"d ask the owner to try to move some dirt piles around, but if he hasn"t got anything to move around, them I might be out of luck.

How do I make sure I don"t make the same mistake my buddy did?

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dave2

03-13-2008 07:01:21




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
treat at as two different pieces of equipment. Check out the tractor and buy/don't buy it based on it's condition. If you want the tractor, block it out and look at the loader. If you like both, then work it some. I have a 26HP IHC that I bought and bought a loader later and installed it. If you can have someone put a strain on it by lifting against something that you know is too heavy (don't bust anything, just enough that you know the load is too much) and watch the console for signs of cracks, weakness, or movement in general (especially where it mounts). If you're happy with that, buy it and have fun. I've got the trip mechanism on mine with a 32" bucket and fork. You can hook up a 2 way cylinder pretty easy, but the cable takes up less room and doesn't leak oil.

Good Luck,

Dave

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Mike M

03-13-2008 05:43:08




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
I have been in that place before. Just do what you can to test what you can. Make them an offer figuring you will have to fix some stuff. If you don't feel comfortable walk away and find another that you can put through it's paces first.



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circus

03-12-2008 21:44:58




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
Put it throught the paces but your friend probably didn't get cheated. I like buying things that are broken as long as it's disclosed. Saves a bundle.



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Alex-41JDb

03-12-2008 20:14:02




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
May be all wet here but to test the clutch on my B I hooked by dads truck behind it and drug him through a parking lock while he worked the brakes. Could work for you?



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john deere greg

03-12-2008 20:07:05




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
if you want to check the drive train ( clutch gears brakes ect.) just put it in gear and push the brakes while it is going if the engine pulls down then the drive train should be ok. as for the rest of the tractor id say look for cracks in the frame of the tractor and loader and wear in the other high use areas.



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Glenn F.

03-12-2008 17:32:36




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
This isn't very scientific, but I'd be checking the front end for cracks, welds, sloppy bushings, pins, pivots, etc. I'd be looking at all the controls used in operating the loader: hydraulic linkages, steering play, clutch and brake levers, etc. I'd also note whether the seat leans/flops to one side allowing for geater visability. I'd also be looking the loader over carefully.

It's pretty hard to hide a tractor that's had heavy loader duty. Loaders are HARD on tractors.

I would not buy an older tractor that's had a loader on it all its life. Just like the truck with the heavy hitch or snow plow is the last one I'm interested in.


Glenn F.

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Allan In NE

03-12-2008 17:25:32




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
What kind of tractor and what make of loader?

Make sure the loader isn't one of those old trip-dumps with a 3-foot wide bucket.

Allan



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JMS/.MN

03-12-2008 21:42:09




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Allan In NE, 03-12-2008 17:25:32  
Just to give you a bit of static- what is wrong with a trip bucket? I filled too many spreaders by pitchfork to not appreciate a trip bucket loader with CABLES, even!, and after my military and college time, I started farming with the "newer" one with just cylinders sans cables- 35- ok, it"s almost April Fool"s Day, so it will be 36 years! Great day to start!. Always thought it was significant.

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Roy in georgia

03-12-2008 17:08:12




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 Re: How to check out a tractor with a loader in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois, 03-12-2008 16:59:39  
find a farmer in the area that has cows horses etc. and ask if you could bring it over and move some manure for him I would think he would appreciate the free moving of it and who knows you might become good friends. alot of horse farms have big sawdust piles that will give it a bit of a workout without getting in the muck.



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