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Bob Huntress

03-05-2008 19:28:12




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We got our baby chicks today. We recieved the first batch of twenty Black Astrolop pullets. They are so cool. We have choosen breeds that are different from the ones that are about to lay for their second and final season. We will be getting two more deliveries. The next one will be Silver Wyndottes and White Rocks in five weeks. I am pretty happy with the outlook of even more chickens, and they will look so cool running around our place, too.

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in-too-deep

03-06-2008 08:39:23




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
I might recommend putting some marbles in the waterer so the chicks don't drown. No one said they were the smartest creatures.



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Mike (WA)

03-06-2008 08:23:30




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
I had Black Australorps when in high school 40 years ago- sold eggs to the neighbors. Got another batch in early '80's- from Murray McMurray, I think. Supposed to be 25 pullets, turned out to be 25 cockerels. The company replaced them without any hassle, and we got to eat the roosters. May do it again one day. I always thought it would be good to have a "double" garden space, divided in the middle, with the chicken house stradling the line, and entrances into each garden area. Then alternate use of the garden spaces as chicken runs, presto, built in fertilizer as well as cleanup of the garden in the fall.

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spitz

03-06-2008 08:08:10




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
the leg problems could be a growth problem. I think broilers should have about 18% protein. You should restrict feed to 12 hours a day. since I have been doing that I have had zero leg problems and 0 heart attackers in the last 500 or so broilers. Not sure who told me to try it but it works great. non broilers dont seem to have that problem.



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Tradititonal Farmer

03-06-2008 02:53:54




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
They are a great choice for farm laying hens.They lay lots of eggs even in the Winter and if turned out side require very little purchased feed.Give the chicks a little hamburger sometimes to keep them from picking each other,also a green light will make them calmer.



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TGIN

03-06-2008 02:20:25




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
I used to keep silver lase wyndottes several yrs. back and had real good luck with them . After they found the garden and flower beds me and the chickens were in the doghouse until the took a ride to town . I always liked golden comets and red rocks too . Nothin like them fresh big brown eggs !



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Bendee

03-05-2008 21:14:28




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 19:28:12  
We will expect to see photos of the others also.
A few of my younguns seem to loose strength in legs to point they can't walk and eventually die,suspect not enough nourishment in the wheat, any thoughts?
I like cross breeding to get colours.



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Bob Huntress

03-05-2008 22:05:59




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bendee, 03-05-2008 21:14:28  
They aren't Cornish, are they? It sounds like they are growing to fast. When I started raising chickens, I was warned from multiple sources to avoid over feeding to much protien. The results are what you describe, a body that gew so much faster then the legs, that the legs are unable to support them. The word I get is that Cornish are the worst, since they are bred to be fully grown within nine weeks. I haven't seen this condition in any of my birds, yet but it's only been four years of raising them. I start mine out with medicated starter. I buy one bag for every twenty chicks. When they have eaten the entire bag, I feed them a crushed version of the standard pellets that we feed adult hens when they are not laying, which is a basic low protien all stock around 10%. My little girl simply smashes the all stock in a dedicated blender. I also renew the water with vigilance. One year I used crushed bread to mix with the rations. I frequently do this with the adults, as a bakery and a Subway give me unusable bread for them, but this was the only time I tried it with the chicks. They did not suffer any problems from it, so if I reach a point where I have excessive old bread, beyond what the adult hens will eat, I may try it again, but the adult hens enjoy it far more.

Let me ask your opinion. Would you say that the young chickens that you mentioned are experiencing a growth of their bodies that excedes their legs ability to support? Post a picture, if you could, as I have never actually seen this happen, though I am constantly warned of it.

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NBAllen

03-06-2008 07:17:25




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 22:05:59  
10% protein sounds REALLY low.

I suspect the medicated starter runs about 20% protein; the labeled "grower/finisher" ration I use (even for Cornish-X - the fast growers)is 16% or 18% protein.

Who did you order your chicks from?

We have a generic version of the "Black Star", but the hens have been very flighty, and I'm not so pleased with that temperment. I don't know if its the particular line of breeding stock at the local hatchery, or if that is a breed characteristic.

MSU has a good poultry site Link: Miss State

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Bob Huntress

03-06-2008 10:39:33




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to NBAllen, 03-06-2008 07:17:25  
I got them from R&J Feed. I have for about four years with great results. The feed is often 12-16%. It has been subsequently noted that the 10% was not as often as I had thought. I do try to limit excessive protein after the first week or two, until they have grown some. I have used as high as 21% while the chickens are laying. After they grow a few months, they get table scraps and lots of bread crumbs with their rations.

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Bendee

03-06-2008 00:23:15




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 Re: big day @ Huntress farm in reply to Bob Huntress, 03-05-2008 22:05:59  
No. it's not rapid growth,hybrid birds but will feed the pellets and stop the wheat.I think its a virus of some sort,not all birds get it.

Incidentally if you have cattle be cautious with feeding bread. blocks the stomach and can prove fatal.Turns into a mound of dough inside..



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