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KEH

02-11-2008 17:58:35




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I'll post this as a new thread since the one below about wheat prices and making your own flour is far below now.

I bought a small hand grinder years ago. A hand grinder requires a lot of effort, but think of it as good excercise. For wheat flour, grind the wheat, experimenting to find the proper tightness for the burrs. Sift with a kitchen sifter. You will have wheat flour and the coarser stuff you sifted out is probably called wheat germ and middlings. I used to eat that with milk as cereal. The flour will make dark bread. If you want to use all the wheat for bread, regrind the middlings you sifted out at a tighter setting, mix the two, and have really dark bread.
Grinding barley requires more sifting to get the bran out, and I never was really successful. Made some crunchy pancakes.

Open pollinated corn makes better tasting grits and corn meal than hybrid field corn IME. I think there are hybrid varieties of white and yellow corn for meal that have a better taste, but I fooled around with crossing varities until I got a variety that makes good yellow grits and meal. These home ground grits to me are much better than the store kind. There is an old mill at Boykin, SC that grows their own variety of yellow corn and stone grinds it.

To grind your own corn with a hand grinder: grind the corn with as tight a setting as you can stand to turn. Sift the corn. What you sift out can be used for grits by putting an appropriate amount into a pot of water. Wait a few minutes and the bran will float to the top. Pour the bran off. Repeat as necessary. Grits will take a lot longer to cook than store grits and will be a little crunchy. If you don't want to eat grits, feed the sifting to livestock.
For meal: take the meal you have sifted out and regrind it at a tighter setting, otherwise the cornbread will be crunchy. It will be necessary to add some baking soda and baking powder to the meal to get it to rise properly. Wife does that, I don't have the exact recipe.

I also experimented with grinding soybeans. Made some high protein pancakes.

KEH

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Bob Kerr

02-13-2008 11:56:34




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  
I used to have a 24" williams stone mill. Boy that made some good flour and corn meal. Stones keep the flour cooler when grinding than steel if you are doing a lot. Heat destroys the enszimes that make fresh meal taste fresh. It was fun and I ground some for neighbors and some poeple in town, kind of like in the old days! One thing though, the mill was a bear to clean and the worst part was the rats that flooded in after a grinding session. they could smell it from miles away and knew good eatin when they smelled it!

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jbruce

02-12-2008 18:28:21




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  
Second the comment on the open pollinated corn tasting much better. But any fresh ground corn is much better than store bought.



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Larry59

02-11-2008 20:45:16




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 The women who did that all the time in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  
One has to wonder about the women of yesterday years. Working like they did. No wonder when you look at one in a picture. You have to thank. How the heck anyone made it with them. lol lol tough as shoe leather they looked. lol



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JoshuaGA

02-11-2008 18:26:15




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  
If you have the time and energy you can:

#1. Make your own fuel. Build a still to run your gas tractors. Make biodiesel for the diesel tractors.

#2. Make free heat. Go cut down a few trees and cure them for firewood.

#3. Grow your own vegetables. Easy to do.

#4. Grow your own fruits. Good greenhouse and pruning makes it possible.

#5. Generate your own electricty. Solar panals, windmills, generators.

#6. Raise your own meat. Raise a hog or two a year, plus a calf, couple lambs or goats, fill the freezer.

#7. Make your own dairy products. Buy old bossie, milk her, all the milk you need plus butter, cheese, ice cream, etc.

#8. Make your own flour. Grow a little grain and gring it yourself.

#9. Make your own sugar. Maple syrup, cane syrup, honey, etc.

#10. Make your own lumber. Good sawmill, few lumber trees, good to go.

All this takes is land, labor, and the drive to do it. Do all this and it is a full time job to stay alive. Glad I only do two or three of these things regurarly. Anything to add.

JoshuaGA

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rrlund

02-12-2008 06:48:06




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to JoshuaGA, 02-11-2008 18:26:15  
I'd just add that most of the time,it's easier to just write the check to pay for those things.



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Traditional Farmer

02-12-2008 03:44:01




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to JoshuaGA, 02-11-2008 18:26:15  
With a few bought modern items and tools most of those things can be accomplished pretty easily without much time and effort.If most people spent as much time being self sufficient as they did watching TV or hanging around retail stores they would be way ahead of the game.
In my area most houses are on 2 to 10 acre lots and probably only 1 out of 50 have a garden or even 1 fruit tree on the place.Most are just mowed or worse yet the owners are too lazy to mow it themselves and pay someone to mow it for them.They could give themselves a 'raise' by growing fruits and vegetables and be healthier for it.Slouth is one of the deadly sins.

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36 coupe

02-12-2008 01:19:40




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to JoshuaGA, 02-11-2008 18:26:15  
Ive done all except 1 and 5.Ran a TV shop on the farm for cash income.Did a few town jobs,constable.dog catcher,code enforcment,CD director,fireman.



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fixerupper

02-11-2008 20:13:56




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to JoshuaGA, 02-11-2008 18:26:15  
Many, many memories here. When I was a kid we did #2-3-4-6&7 and we gathered eggs and butchered chickens. I'm one of only a few people my age who can say I churned butter as a kid. It was a boring saturday morning job I had to do whether I wanted to or not.

We did live clean and healthy, and learned a good work ethic, but I don't want to go back. Jim



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Paul from MI

02-11-2008 18:13:08




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  
I also grind my own cornmeal with a steel burr mill, but I cheated and put an electric motor on mine. It is a Wards, date and model unknown.
For cornmeal I use ordinary field corn. Shell it and winnow it using a fan if I don't have wind. Then I dry it in a 200F oven for at least 8 hours. Then I tumble it in a tumbler I made from a 5 Gallon pail. Motor runs at 12 rpm. This knocks all the small pieces of cob off each kernel. Winnow it again. Then grind it twice, sifting through a screen made from screen door material. Regrind what won't pass the screen. Makes great mush & cornbread. I have also ground wheat for cereal the same way. I cook it in a doubleboiler like old fashioned oatmeal. We ate it a lot when I was a kid, except we ground it in an old hand coffeee grinder. Didn't have any money and it was a good cheap breakfast, then fried it like mush for dinner if there was some left over.
Paul

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Tom in TN

02-11-2008 18:48:52




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to Paul from MI, 02-11-2008 18:13:08  
Paul,

I grew up on a farm in Ohio back in the 40s and 50s. Corn meal mush was a staple of our diet. I always liked it fried with maple syrup.

I haven't had any for about 40 years, but I can still "taste" it. Thanks for the memory.

Tom in TN



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Howard H.

02-11-2008 18:08:48




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to KEH, 02-11-2008 17:58:35  

My sister-in-law bakes all the time with home-ground flour. She mixes white wheat flour with hard red and makes the most wonderful rolls (as well as other things).

I have eaten a lot of wheat right out of the bin without even looking too close - but for some reason, once I get it in the kitchen for grinding, I'm pretty paranoid about any grasshopper legs (or whatever!) slipping by! ha...

The kids and I ground some corn with an Indian mano and metate I had found out on the farm - they thought that was really neat, but I don't know how the Indians put up with the grit that gets mixed in...

Grinding and baking your own is sure an interesting hobby... Final fruits of what all this old iron was really for!! :)


Howard

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Bob Kerr

02-13-2008 11:51:08




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 Re: wheat and corn grinding in reply to Howard H., 02-11-2008 18:08:48  
Howard, I found an old indian skeleton when I was a kid. The guy was old when he died aprox 35 yrs. His teeth were worn flat from sand and grit in the food he ate. They lived along the river and ground or pounded any corn, they ate mussels and fish and if they cooked them the wrapped them in leaves and put them in the fire. lots of dirt around I am sure. they also cooked in skins with water in them and tossed in hot rocks from the fire, more sand there. They said the skeleton was about 350 yrs old. It sure was crumbling. We used to find human teeth out in the fields around there and you could tell if the person who lost them was old or not from the wear. Neat place to grow up! Sure gave me respect for those who were here first.

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