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Changed the lock on my workshop.

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IH2444

02-11-2008 11:20:17




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Went to town yesterday, when I got back and pulled the car up about 40ft from my workshop I was assualted by extremely strong laquer smell. Found one of the wifes cousins painting a car with laquer amongst the haze inside with a roaring fire going in the wood stove. And this is just a 2 stall workshop.

He got insulted and I am relieved to still have a workshop. Guess who lost shop priviledges ?

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n8terry

02-11-2008 18:00:03




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 BOOM in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
When I was a kid I remember a bachelor who decided that he might as well end his life so he turned the gas on at the cook stove. He lived in a very small house, one story. He laid down on the couch and waited for the end.

The pilot light ignited the gas, blew every window out of the house but never harmed the bachelor. They hauled the poor old boy off to the assylum.



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Larry NE IL

02-11-2008 15:06:20




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
I fill my shop up with tractors every time I'm done working on something....even keeps my kid out!



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Goose

02-11-2008 14:19:36




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
Besides me, my wife is the only one who has a key to my shop. And she admits to feeling guilty if she has to go in it for something, like she can feel my looking over her shoulder.



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ScottyHOMEy

02-11-2008 14:11:39




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
My neighbor has a problem like that.

He's got one of the few heated garages in the neighborhood and it tends to draw folks in from the road if his lights are on.

He's got a salvaged home forced air furnace out there, but had the foresight to rig it so that his combustion air is drawn from outdoors. Still, no reason to get sloppy about combustible fumes. The wood heat is less costly to put in, but those fumes are the big drawback. 8^(

He was good enough to let me tie up his heated side for a couple weeks last spring to paint my Farmall BN. Acrylic urethane fumes, and all went well. Even with the external air source, I took some care to keep the shop warm (like a curing temp) overnight, heat it up a bit more before I'd start for the day, then dial it back while I was painting and for a while after to give the fumes time to dissipate.

That's in contrast to our earlier project which was repainting one of his old Wheel Hosses. A little research showed that IH red 2150 would atually be right. I had some hanging around, and contributed it to the project. We were close, but not quite done with the prep work when I stepped out back one fine spring morning for some fresh air and a cigarette and looked over toward the garage in question. Garage door was down, but I could hear the compressor running in the shed. Unknown Ford Ranger in the driveway.
The big clue was that the rabbit hutch had been set outdoors. "Painting already?, sez I

I try not to leave the boys over there without adult supervision for too long, so I refilled the coffee mug and headed over, thinking Imy presence might be needed to restore order.

I was too late. The rabbits in the hutch outside had a rosy hue on their backs and I walked into a cloud of red enamel.

Dave showed up having applied a little too much hair of the dog in hopes of remedying teh prior night's bender. He actually has a reputation as a good hand with a paint gun when he's straight. In this case he wandered in bein' sociable and asked what was goin' on. Armed with that infomation, he spied an old siphon gun hangin' on the wall. (WE had a couple HVLP guns on had for the job.) Next thing anybody knew, he'd mixed himself up a quart and hitched that siphon gun onto the air hose and was sprayin' away. Did I mention that nobody had dialed the air regulator back from the 90+ pounds needed for the prior night's impact wrench project? He mistook the footrests/running boards for fenders and laid the heavy paint on the wrong side (All the time assuring us that "runs don't rust.")

We were two evenings undoing his havoc.

Since then the neighbor has been on a mission to strip anything that might be misused from the main bay of his garage. Put a sliding door with a lock between the two sides. And behind that, a lock on the fridge.

We've always been pretty good about keeping the work bay cleaned up, but it's a lot easier to work in and sure looks nicer since he's been re-arranging things. He11, we might even put a nice epoxy finish on his floor and paint the walls, as nice as it is.

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Dave BN

02-11-2008 14:29:46




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 02-11-2008 14:11:39  
Scotty, if that salvidge furnace has a pilot light you could still be in danger. Dave



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ScottyHOMEy

02-11-2008 14:45:13




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 I'm all ears. in reply to Dave BN, 02-11-2008 14:29:46  
Gene seems to have worries, and you mention the pilot. Don't know enough to argue, but am quite interested in not blowing us all to flinders.

If the combustion air for the furnace is drawn from outside the garage, and it's obviously vented to the outside where's the danger of igniting fumes come from? I'd think the pilot wold draw air from outside, as well. Is that wrong?



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gene bender

02-11-2008 14:20:27




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 02-11-2008 14:11:39  
Youre lucky the fumes didnt get into the flame on that furnace or you wouldnt be here today.



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John S-B

02-11-2008 14:03:03




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
Seems to be quite rude, not to mention dumb. Evidently it seems he didn't ask first? Your family and home are more important that man's feelings.



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IH2444

02-12-2008 06:36:45




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to John S-B, 02-11-2008 14:03:03  
I had already told him no on the painting , he said he was just going to do some bondo work...
But tried to sneak in the painting...
the dude is out!



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Buzzman72

02-11-2008 12:15:04




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
BIL of a good friend of mine lost his house from a fire that started in the attached garage. After dropping the tank on a GM G-series van to replace an electric fuel pump, seems he left the tank down overnight, and neglected to turn off his incandescent trouble light...which ignited the vapors.

We've all done some not-so-smart stuff sometime in our lives...most of us got off lucky is the difference, and we usually learned something from it as well.

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36 coupe

02-12-2008 01:30:18




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to Buzzman72, 02-11-2008 12:15:04  
Gas tank work is done outdoors here.Those who do it indoors lose buildings.



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JoeBob/IN

02-11-2008 13:52:19




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to Buzzman72, 02-11-2008 12:15:04  
I don't think the bulb nor its heat would have ignited the gasoline. Must have been a spark somehow that ignited it.



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Firemandave

02-11-2008 11:45:59




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
Geez ,Hasn't he ever heard of flashover? Probably to stoned from the fumes to figure that one out!



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Clodbuster

02-11-2008 11:31:40




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to IH2444, 02-11-2008 11:20:17  
Almost a Darwin Award.

Very picky who is in my shop.



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504-2

02-11-2008 17:23:29




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 Re: Changed the lock on my workshop. in reply to Clodbuster, 02-11-2008 11:31:40  
A few years ago a trade magazine stated that almost all garage fires are caused by incandescent trouble lights when they are dropped and gas is on the floor. I switched all of mine to fluorescent with safety covers.



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