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Just when you think you have seen it all

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37 chief

01-28-2008 22:13:20




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I have been working on the spare motor for my A/C model M. I removed the motor last week end and have it on a table where I can get at things better. There is a sprocket someone put on the front of the crankshaft probabloy to drive a pump? I just got around to removing the sprocket today. To mount the sprocket someone cut of the crank pulley mounting threaded stud. Now what do I do. I can cut my loses in time, or drill and thread a 1 1/4 hole in the end of the crank. Tomorrow is another day. Stan

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JHH

01-29-2008 11:26:41




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to 135 Fan, 01-28-2008 22:13:20  
Reminds me of the story around here that New Holland has a test track where they shake rattle and bump things for days and if it don't break they build it lighter.



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flying belgian

01-29-2008 05:53:50




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to 37 chief, 01-28-2008 22:13:20  
The wife works for Carlson craft at one of there buisiness card printer companies. They go bonkers over 1/8 cent per card.



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T_Bone

01-28-2008 22:31:31




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to 37 chief, 01-28-2008 22:13:20  
Hi Stan,

Back a few moons ago, I swaped a Dodge Power Wagon auto for a 4spd. Dodge had saved a couple bucks by not drilling the crank for a pilot bushing on auto cranks. I took it too a crank builder and he hit me for $30 for 15min worth of work drilling the pilot bushing hole but I gladly paid it as without it I was done.

I sure wouldn't have thought Dodge would have stocked two different cranks for a $0.50 part.

T_Bone

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36 coupe

01-29-2008 02:34:56




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to T_Bone, 01-28-2008 22:31:31  
I had a bushing made for 5.00 by a machinist.I measured the id of the shaft bore and the od of the transmission shaft.Jeeps use a bushing.



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MarkB_MI

01-29-2008 02:02:38




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to T_Bone, 01-28-2008 22:31:31  
T-Bone,

In the auto industry, that's called "giving away content". It may very well be that it's more expensive to stock two different parts than one common part, but those costs are difficult to track down. On the other hand, the cost to do an additional machining operation is very visible to the bean-counters, particularly when the part is purchased from a supplier. 50 cents a vehicle times 100,000 vehicles adds up. Your typical auto industry bean counter would kill his own mother for a buck a vehicle.

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Spook

01-29-2008 02:26:45




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to MarkB_MI, 01-29-2008 02:02:38  
I work for GM, and I have seen suggestions shot down over 5 cents, a nickle. Actually, the old GMAD ( General Motors Assembly Division or Gone mad! ) had a policy that cost must go down every year. Not real hard in year 1, 2 or 3. Real goofy in year 7 or.... 100,000 vehicles is not a high volume item. That's only 400 units a day, or less than half a typical assembly plant volume.



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Vernon in Ks

01-29-2008 05:14:49




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to Spook, 01-29-2008 02:26:45  
It has always been that way. An old story about a model-T ford that it always had this rattle. A man found that if it had one fastener at a particular location it would stop the rattle. He contacted Henry Ford and told him about it. Henry thanked him but said what I need is for you to find where I can remove one fastener.



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Oldoak-t

01-29-2008 09:40:04




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 Re: Just when you think you have seen it all in reply to Vernon in Ks, 01-29-2008 05:14:49  
Henry Ford---Reminds me of when Henry Ford sent some employee to the junk yard to find out what was not wore our on the model T ford, the employee came back and reported that the king pins in the steering were about the only thing that was not wore out, his remark was "make the king pins cheaper" No use to make one part better than it should be.



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