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Kenk

01-27-2008 13:27:57




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I know I'll get many answers but... I have a Ford NAA and just picked up an Allis D-17. I have been using 10w30 or 10w-40 in the NAA. The former owner of the D-17 used 15w-40. Can I use 14w-40 in both? I live in minnesota and use the NAA in winter. Also what about the trans, hyd and rear. I have heard UTF in all three and also 134D for the NAA. I am open to listen to many opinions.




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Texasmark

01-27-2008 16:14:08




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 Re: which oils? in reply to Kenk, 01-27-2008 13:27:57  
134 wasn"t around when the NAA came out so they used 90-hyd fluid-90. When 134 came out some used it 134-134-134. Worked great in the winter but it did show you where your bad gaskets/seals were and with 3 separate compartments and 2 shafts running fore to aft, there were plenty.

Don"t know if your D in D-17 Allis stands for Diesel or not. Neighbor had one for years and it was a diesel. If it does you need an API rated C for compression oil in that. So the star on the container should have CJ, CI, CI-4 type things. Shella Rotella T 15W-40 is one such oil, Chevron Delo another, and Mobil has Delvac.

Most of your oils mentioned are for S which is spark type engines.....SG, SJ type notation. Not for diesels. So use them in your spark engines.

Course I like to minimize oil types on the shelves, so I put Shell in everything....till I got these new Dodge P/u"s and now I have to use light oil. My Hemi says to not use anything but 5W-20 or risk engine damage for all temps and all services. On the www they talk about the 4.7 SOHC in the other one having an oil pump specifically designed for 5W-30 so use nothing else.

Boy if that doesn"t blow you away..... but the oil pressures are holding up so I guess what they say about the oil pumps in these trucks is true; they are designed to pump light oil. So light oil they get.

Mark

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Bob

01-27-2008 13:36:58




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 Re: which oils? in reply to Kenk, 01-27-2008 13:27:57  
In most cases, "134D" and "UTF" mean the same thing. Check the label, though.

The NAA has more than one fill point in the rear end/tranny/hydraulics. Best have a manual, or at least know which is which. The tranny and rear end, IIRC, use 90 gear oil.



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