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John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II

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casey nish

12-17-2007 18:22:59

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Anybody heard of swaping an John Deere motor out for a Cummins.

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HeyPigFarmer

12-18-2007 12:34:34

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

You never did say what tractor you were trying to put this Cummins motor in. There is a company out there, I'll try to find it, that will sell you the engine mounts, a different hood, and a different grill piece for the Deere articulated 4wd tractors to put a Cummins in there. In a 2wd or an MFWD tractor the 8.3 C-Series would be a whole lot more logical to use, that is what Case uses in there 7000 - 8000 and now MX series tractors and they cranked that thing up to around 300 hp give or take. Now they are using the 9.0 C-Series with the emissions choking them down. If you really want a Deere with a Cummins in it go buy an 8960 which had the Big Cam IV or an 8970 which had the N14. Make it an animal you could modify it to around 600hp but that requires pump, injector and piston changes. You could pull the factory engine out and install an N14-600 in there or even better yet put the ISX-600 if you want to spend money.
If you have enough time, patients and money anything can be done. It's just nuts and bolts.

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Ray

12-18-2007 11:15:35

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

I saw an 8640 with a cummins conversion at an auction last summer.It was a sharp tractor.It brought $20000. The owner said the conversion cost more than that.

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JMS/.MN

12-18-2007 07:48:41

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

Cummins has repower kits for a number of brands. Talk to Steve Mallicoat in IA- 1-319-366-7537. For Kinze, talk to Jim Spaid-1-319-668-1300.

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IaGary

12-18-2007 05:23:20

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

Heres one here done by Kinze.

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Jim Johnson

12-18-2007 04:56:38

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

I remember being in a Cummins shop in 1970 and they were putting a 903 in a 4020. Always wonered how that worked because of the extra HP.

Jim

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Leland

12-17-2007 21:00:50

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

I would not go with anything bigger than a 290 or 300 BC bacause you will tear up gears like crazy with one .

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buickanddeere

12-17-2007 20:34:32

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

Best way to de-value the tractor I know of.

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RodInNS

12-17-2007 20:02:06

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

I would think a 'C' would be a lot more logical swap than a Big Cam. What are you doing that you need twice the engine of a 466? The 855 is probably more than twice the engine in it's physical presence, and depending on it's spec... a good deal more than twice in the HP/Torque department. Didn't they go up to 4-1/4 or so on the HP??
Seems like overkill to me. In addition you's need to change the fuel pump to a PTG to get the variable speed govenor. Cummins truck engines only maintain idle speed and a set maximum speed, and nothing in between.

Rod

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iowa_tire_guy

12-17-2007 19:38:31

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

BIL put a Cummings in his AC 7010. He liked it, more power on less fuel.

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ncdiesel48

12-18-2007 12:31:44

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 12-17-2007 19:38:31

Not to sound rude but there is no G in cummins.

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jp88

12-18-2007 14:27:52

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to ncdiesel48, 12-18-2007 12:31:44

Thats like Chicargo or Allis Chamblers but we know what he's talking about.

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Joe(TX)

12-18-2007 08:39:46

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 12-17-2007 19:38:31

That was probably a 5.9L(360) Cummins and not an 855

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IA Roy

12-17-2007 18:55:20

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to casey nish, 12-17-2007 18:22:59

It sounds like something that Kinze might have done.

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gene bender

12-18-2007 03:19:27

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Re: John Deere 466 swap to a Cummins Big Cam II in reply to IA Roy, 12-17-2007 18:55:20

That would be a good place to go to see how they do it. Kinze is still doing it i have seen brand new DEERES from the factory there for a bigger engine.

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