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Used motor oil in tires?

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Super Steve

12-16-2007 21:24:49




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Would it be possible to put used motor oil in the tires of a tractor. I was out plowing snow today and relised i need more weight so i was thinking about windsheild washer fluid but that would get a little costly but then i noticed our used oil tank sitting there and i thought about putting that in the tires. Is it possible? thanx in advance.(no tree huggers please i know it could leak yadayada)Steve

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HeyPigFarmer

12-17-2007 12:51:30




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Around here there is a guy that fills tires with beet juice. I don't know what kind of beets it comes from, it's really sticky when it leaks. I think someone may have already mentioned it because I heard someone call it rim guard once. We always use cast weights.



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TomTex

12-17-2007 11:02:19




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
I have to believe you just ask this question to start a feud? Surely you jest? Tom



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old

12-17-2007 09:07:55




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Used oil would cause you more problems then worth. That oil would eat a tube in less then a year and then the inside of the tire. WWF doesn't really cost all that much if you watch for sales. Last time I needed to fill a tire I got it for 99 cents a gal. and got a discount because I was buying 6 cases of the stuff so it came out to about 89 cents a gal.

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soundguy

12-17-2007 06:00:39




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
i agree with the others.. not only will the oil likely eat the rubber.. but it will render the casing and tube useless IF it ever does leak.

Water and radiator antifreeze would weight more than the oil anyway..

Soundguy



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Mathias NY

12-17-2007 04:47:17




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Oil will disolve rubber over time as already mentioned.

I did a little experiment last winter, one rear tire loaded with CaCl and one was unloaded with a pair of wheel weights. The unloaded side was about 150lbs less than the weighted side. Until the ground froze the unweighted side always spun first. Once the ground was frozen it made no difference at all. I do run with tire chains.



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ChrisLSD

12-17-2007 04:29:43




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 28% fertilizer in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
talk about enviromentaly friendly - just use fertilizer - sure it is just as bad fif not worse to rsut and eat away metal - but it is heavy (10+ pounds per gallon and it doesn't freeze



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JoeBob/IN

12-17-2007 09:10:45




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 Re: 28% fertilizer in reply to ChrisLSD, 12-17-2007 04:29:43  
You must be rich if you can afford to use 28% for weight! That stuff is as valuable as Smurfette was to their colony!



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RustyFarmall

12-17-2007 04:17:07




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
All the weight you can put on it still won't do much good on hard packed snow or ice. Get a set of chains. Your worries will be over.



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Super Steve

12-17-2007 06:00:30




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-17-2007 04:17:07  
i have a set of chains and the worries arent over, it starts spinning and bounces



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Ultradog MN

12-17-2007 04:03:44




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
I would start looking for wheel weights.
OEM ones are hard to find sometimes and pricey but you can always sell them again for what you have in them.
The advantage to weights over fluid is you can remove them relatively easily.
I use my tractor for mowing in the summer so I want it light as I can.
I put the wheel weights and chains on when it looks like the snow is going to fly.
Good luck

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Exxon Valdise

12-17-2007 03:34:07




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
You talk about your potential environmental disasters! Whew! Oil in a tractor tire? No, I think I'd pass on that idea.

1. It would take a major effort to pump that much oil in (or out) of a tire.

2. Petroleum products will kill rubber in time.

3. As an example, a relatively small 14.9 X 28 would take over 50 gallons to fill. Assuming you'll do a pair, that's over 100 gallons of oil. Even USED oil, that's a LOT of oil. You'd almost qualify to join OPEC.

4. Once you got a leak, an oily tire and tube would be virtually impossible to patch/plug.

Advantages? Well, your rims wouldn't rust.

Cal/Clor isn't that bad. In all but a very few isolated instances, even with an occasional leak, rim life is usually 40-50-60 years. Windshield washer fluid or rim gaurd is more expensive, but better than a major oil spill. Cast weights have their advantages and a few DISadvantages. Still better IMHO than used motor oil

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Don-Wi

12-16-2007 23:23:44




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Weight is always a good thing in snow, but do you havre any chains? You'd be surprised how much they help if you don't have them already.

We run CaCl in all our rear tires and never had any problems with it.

Donovan from Wiscosnin



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patsdeere

12-16-2007 23:00:41




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
What about using something like buckshot. 1 good thing is it wood never leak out. =) And probably wouldn't freeze.

another idea is to put some type of powder in. It might be a little more difficult to put in (maybe with a sandblaster unit) but you could probably use something non toxic. I was thinking along the lines of flower or sugar or ground up corn.

Since I haven't had to worry about it out here in warm CA I don't have much experience with it

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Janicholson

12-17-2007 06:54:59




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to patsdeere, 12-16-2007 23:00:41  
The use of any solid material will abrade the insidetube and result in catastrophic failure. Do not do this. JimN



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135 Fan

12-16-2007 22:46:21




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Use something non toxic! Dave



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toolz

12-16-2007 22:42:38




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Steve- Keep in mind that different fluids are different weights. Water is 8lbs/gal. Oil won"t work since it will eat the tubes/tires, but it is lighter than water. I think windshield washer fluid is around 6-6.5 lbs/gal. Calcium is used for 2 reasons- it won"t freeze, and it"s heavier than water, I think as much as 11 lbs or so per gallon, depending on how strong it"s mixed. I"m sure there are some pros on here that will be more accurate, but it"s something to consider.

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Grabatire

12-16-2007 22:20:46




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Check with your local repair shops. If you have a barrel or two they may be willing to dispose of the anti-freeze they drain out of engines that come in for work.

It worked for me. I picked up a couple barrels from a firm that cleans and sells them and took them to neighbourhood shop. Within a week I had 90 gallons.

Be carefull though. Some of the cheaper tubes don't like anti-freeze.



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patsdeere

12-16-2007 22:20:17




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
I don't know if they would sell it to you (or if you would want it) or for what price, but lube joints often have old antifreeze that they took out of somebody's car when they service the radiator. I don't see what would be wrong with that stuff.



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fatbob50

12-16-2007 22:13:43




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Hello, I would suggest wheel weights. My neighbor had a field roller and he filled it with used oil over about a 5 year period. It worked good until one year he was rolling his hayfield and the roller got a crack in it. This resulted in an oil striped field which wouldn"t grow much. He has decided not to use the motor oil as a weight again. Hope this helps. Bob



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RobMD

12-16-2007 21:30:10




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:24:49  
Oil eats tires.

Good try, though. Gotta pay the money. Myself personally, i'd just put 50/50- antifreeze in it.



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Super Steve

12-16-2007 21:35:58




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to RobMD, 12-16-2007 21:30:10  
Ok thanx for heads up Rob, I was just trying to cheap out but anifreeze was the next option. Going to have to invest in something and quick with all this snow flying around.



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RobMD

12-16-2007 21:51:33




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 Re: Used motor oil in tires? in reply to Super Steve, 12-16-2007 21:35:58  
It's worth every penny when you fill those tires up.



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