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what type of welding?

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tractorhank

12-05-2007 07:45:46




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I have been into showing and restoring antique tractors for about 2 years now and I want to take a class on welding so I can do my own instead of sending it out. Continuing education here has 4 different classes. Which one should I take that would benefit me the most? Arc Welding, Mig Welding, Oxy-acetylene Welding, or Tig Welding. I have an older Arc welder that someone gave me that runs on 220 outlet and I also have a Mig welder that runs on 110 outlet. I have used the mig welder but my results at the time were not very good - no experience or teaching. Any advice would be appreciated. I plan on collecting tractors for a very long time. It is the most satisfying and fun hobby and the people you meet are fantastic.

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Hoss in Maine

12-05-2007 15:33:20




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
Thats funny,cause ive been tig welding heavy wall stainless and corbon for years! Later Hoss



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in-too-deep

12-05-2007 11:50:24




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
My vote is for the Arc class(stick) If you can get really good at that, you'll be 3 times as good with a Mig gun. A 220V stick welder is much more versatile than a 120V Mig like you have, too. They both have their place, but I think you'd be better off getting solid instruction on a stick machine.



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135 Fan

12-05-2007 10:47:43




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
It's too bad there wasn't a beginner course that covered some of each. Don't worry about TIG for now. Oxy/acetylene is really good for learning about the puddle and what to look for but for anything that's over 1/8 inch it's not very economical and slow. Based on what machines you have, I'd agree with taking the arc welding course. It might include a little MIG because after all MIG is still an arc welding process. Any welding that uses electricity to make the arc is arc welding. Your 110 volt MIG is only good for light gauge materials and the small wire can give a lot of problems. The last thing you need when learning. Dave

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J.C.in AZ.

12-05-2007 10:02:43




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
Arc by all means,the rest will come along by themselves depending if you have the special Equipment for different welding Techniques. Acy/Oxy would be very good to practice at also. Mig, Tig and what have you are nothing more than advanced Welding procedures based upon a good Talent to Arc Weld.School will only pay off if you Practice-Practice-Practice.



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J.C.in AZ.

12-05-2007 11:07:45




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to J.C.in AZ., 12-05-2007 10:02:43  
Rereading the advice I offered I must clarify one thing. All welding is" Arc" of one variety or another.Instead of writing"Arc by all means" I should have advised,"Elctrode" or commonly called "Stick" Arc Welding by all means.If you are good at "Stick" Welding the rest will be easy to master with experience.



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37 chief

12-05-2007 08:47:30




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
Just starting out I would take a class on oxy-acetylene for starters, if you have time take the ark welding. Tig and mig are nice, but with oxy-acetelene and arc you will be able to do most all of your welding needs. Getting set up for tig, and mig will be rather expensive. Stan



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old

12-05-2007 08:22:35




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
Learn stick and oxy/aec. If you can do both of them then you can also do mig/tig. BTDT and I started out by learning to weld stick the old way self taught seat of the pants and also learned to solder in the navy and was micro cet. at one time. So now I can do any of them with no problem. Shoot the first mig job I had I had never mig welded before. Went in and took there test and was hired right on the spot becuase my wleds held up to all there test but I had never welded with mig up to that point

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Mathias NY

12-05-2007 08:15:23




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 Re: what type of welding? in reply to tractorhank, 12-05-2007 07:45:46  
The most useful, by far, is the Oxy-Acetylene. With that setup you can cut, weld, braze, and heat. No other method has that versatility.

Arc welding is a general term that covers: stick, mig, and tig welding. MIG welding (Metal Inert Gas) is the cheapest to get into, easiest to use, many people swear by it, and requires no particular talent to do a fair job once setup properly. Stick welding will produce the best welds on thicker material, but requires a little more coordination. TIG welding (Tungston Inert Gas) is the most expensive to get into, requires more coordination, and is only good for thin material. It will produce the best welds on thin material or on Aluminum.

For the general hobbiest, the Oxy-Acetylene is probably the best system to get. A Mig welder will cover most of your welding needs. If you get into fabricating a stick welder will be prefered. If you do a lot of work with Aluminum or thin metals, the Tig welder is best.

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