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Dave from MN

11-09-2007 15:38:02

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Looked at Central Livestock -Albany,MN for the market report for the ale on the 8th. 90-120# bull calves -$75-$110 That has to be the cheapest I have seen for a long time.

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sd pete

11-10-2007 07:54:21

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

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Floyd352

11-10-2007 06:29:42

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

Around here in upstate NY [Rochester] I didn't get a second cut even though I cut in may. no rain. Hay sells for up to 350per ton. And they want to use more corn for fuel. We should be drilling in alaska and off florida. I sold off most of my stock and didn't even come close to breaking even. Feggured to sell while they were fat and sassy. I'll be praying for rain for all of the country that needs it. God be with you all.

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Formerly PaMike

11-10-2007 05:42:05

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

I remember giving $180 less than 2 years ago. I thought about getting some bottle calves but I was able to buy 290 lb Holstein steers @ $.58/lb. I think there might be some oppertunities for people in the PA/MD/NY area to make some money this winter. Buy thin cattle real cheap put some weight on them over the winter, then send them down to VA in the spring. Hay is in short supply around here, but not near as bad as further south. I havent risked my money on this idea yet, but I might when my one hay supplier tells me his price on his low quality hay he doesnt want to sell to his regular customers.

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Yugrotcart

11-10-2007 05:32:36

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

Holstien bull calves FOB the farm, $50,or less, here in Ontario.

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Walt Davies

11-09-2007 23:10:01

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

Sure glad my barn is full of hay my buddy wants to put 5 more head on the place I shouldn't have any trouble with that.
Walt

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Gene Dotson

11-09-2007 19:39:28

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

Horse prices here in Ohio are even worse. Talked to a local buyer who was offered a lot of 15 killer horses if he would haul them. He turned them down. Breeder killed and buried all of them... Gene

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dobber

11-09-2007 18:43:17

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

Many places that would of or should have had winter wheat to graze by now here in south plains aren't going to have much if any wheat grazing because it got dry again here too so less demand for small feeders again. It it had kept raining might be a different story but still many lost big money grazing them last year so no has the money to do more this time either.

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John (C-IL)

11-09-2007 18:23:11

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

You will also spend from $120 to $150 per calf to get them weaned and on regular feed. Add in one or two that die and those cheap calves will get pretty expensive.

Regular feed delivered today was $193 per ton With corn near $4 and bean meal at $250 it is getting real tough to make money with cattle and that is the best livestock opportunity right now.

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Weldon K

11-09-2007 18:23:10

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

I assume that you are referring to dairy breed ( usually holstein ) bull calves. I sold large week old holstein bull calves from my 40 cow dairy this fall for $60 at the farm until buyer did not want any more. Took one to Mt. Airy, N.C. market 2 weeks ago. Only 4 calves there that day. A group of 3 sold for $100 each. Mine sold for $95. This week I took 4 that were 2 weeks old --$57.50 each. I just looked at 3 N.C. market reports for this week
1. $30-60 2. $20-47.50
3. $30 With the drought this year and shortage of hay , corn at $4/bu., milk replacer price higher than ever and the fact that holstein steers never sell as well as beef breeds, no none is going to pay much for week old bull calves.

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Dave from MN

11-10-2007 03:22:40

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Weldon K, 11-09-2007 18:23:10

Well, I may buy a few more then, I have milk replacer that I bought at a discount with a promo and have starter and grower locked in at $13/100#. Hay is not an issue for me as I was able to get quite a bit, so I may just buy a few more then at that price, I was paying $150 each in August. Ideally I will find a few beef calves or a few good looking bred cows.

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RMinVa

11-09-2007 16:34:36

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

While no one was looking, we down south flooded the market with drought cattle and calves. The southeast has been unloading since June. Got worse in Sept. and Oct. Our local sale barn on a normal year would avg. about 1,100 head per week. For 6 weeks they were packed with 3,000 per week. That's just the one near me. It's like that west of here to about the Mississippi and south into Florida. Calves I normally sell in Jan. - Feb I sold in the first of Oct.

Talking to a friend in Wisconsin and he had the picture that Va. was mainly towns and cities. Never dawned on him how many cows were here. Same for the rest of the southeast. Whole lot of 15-50 head cows on farms all through the southeast. It adds up. Last figure I saw on NC. was 900,000 head. Don't know how many are left now.

Sorry we had to do that but no rain,no hay, no grazing adds up to selling. I look for another big selloff soon. Feed and fertilizer prices going through the roof. Still in drought. It ain't over yet.

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kyplowboy

11-09-2007 17:58:06

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to RMinVa, 11-09-2007 16:34:36

Here in western KY there is going to be more dumped. Hay is very short. (Round bales of cornstalks are selling for $30) Alot of people are like me and sold a few calves early and culled all that realy needed cull"n in July. Now we have all the hay we are going to get and have been stretch"n hot barb wire round corn fields, bean feilds, woods, thickets, anything they can eat around on. The way I have it figured I should have enough hay if I start feeding around the 15th of December. For every 3 days before then I start I will have to sell a cow. Going to be alot less cow around here come May.

Dave

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RMinVa

11-09-2007 18:21:42

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to kyplowboy, 11-09-2007 17:58:06

Next big thing is rain. We got 9 in. about 10 days ago. never seen soil soak up that much water before. It's about gone now. Guys cutting up fescue sod with offset disk can't keep the disk in the ground after 9 in. of rain. If we don't get a lot of moisture by the middle of March it's all over for cattle here. Will sell them all along with everyone else. We gotta make a bumper crop of hay next spring or there's no need to own cows. Gluten/soy hull pellets have gone from $120 per ton to $180 in 8 weeks. Guess this last fuel price hike will send it to $200.

South of me the water supply is still very low for many areas in NC. Some town having water hauled in for humans on tanker trucks. If it doesn't rain maybe it'll snow. Only difference in now and 1931-33 is it's hotter in the summers. If the drought don't kill grass the heat burns it down. Last time I was at the salebarn I saw some drought cattle going for 22 cent. Lots of bones showing on some cattle that day. I hope folks don't wait that long before selling if they don't have feed. Fat heavy cows are still in the low 50's here. Or were a week or two ago.

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kyplowboy

11-09-2007 18:43:50

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to RMinVa, 11-09-2007 18:21:42

Good condition cows are still selling good here too. We are in about the same shape as you as far as rain. We got 7 inches in about 5 days 3 weeks ago. Soaked it up like a spunge. Two days after the rain people were working corn ground. My cows are in better shape now than they have been in a long time, just turned them out Tuesday on another 25 acres of corn ground. Try'n to talk a neighbor on the other side of me into let'n me "spread cow manure" on about 70 acres of his corn ground. Good luck to you.

Dave

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RMinVa

11-09-2007 19:07:06

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to kyplowboy, 11-09-2007 18:43:50

Good luck to you too. We're going to need luck cause it's going to be a long winter.

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DTM

11-09-2007 16:25:57

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Re: Wow, week old bull calves low in reply to Dave from MN, 11-09-2007 15:38:02

They'll get cheaper yet as corn approaches $4.00. I was just thinking today how many critters I want on the place this winter if feed costs stay this high.

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