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I'll not even pretend to know a darned thing about cattle, especially bulls, with the exception of what little I've seen at neighboring farms way back when, when there were many of them, but I can relate to the subject as we get these kind of people too. At times we have quite a few of another variety, usually associated highly discerning and overly indecisive hay buyers LOL ! Well I can recall what it's like to have around 40 of them and having more than usual hired help. Some of these people do the same darned thing, and get carried away with being firm with the animals, for no apparent reason, they lose their cool when the animal outsmarts them and or does not cooperate, or whatever, maybe they are just plain mean or have a big chip on the shoulder. I've caught em and sent em down the road, one guy was grabbing a stallion by the ears, like they do at the track, I personally removed him from the premises, he was ruining a great horse, and my favorite, and I took it upon myself to reverse what he had done, took a long time before he's trust me with those ears, but I did it, but it was just me he trusted still. I never thought they really remember, but they do, was away for 3 months and when this guy saw me from out in the padddock he tore across it, came to the gate, reached over the gate and clamped onto my coat, like where the heck have you been ? Never thought they remember like that, all that extra stall cleaning and sneakin him some good hay, had a buddy for life LOL ! Finally sold him, glad I caught this guy, he'd have turned this one into an ornery one that no one would want, new owner really liked him too. Same kind of thing, a trainer I am not, but since I was a kid and at different times lately, I've been on the support side of keeping the barns and the like, I never saw a need for it, I think it increases the danger and risk for the most part, you can still get your point across without the hard tools, it's a little different when training, but during the chores etc. or when moving them, for the most part it does not seem necessary, and those who like to do these things really show their true colors, it's funny when they strike back, had a lady get to harsh with one and she just missed getting struck, I personally threw her off the place, aggravating enough as it is to run place like this to have these riders come in and do things like this, she'd have been the first to sue. That horse was going to get her, was fine around the rest of us. I don't know what the protocol is with the cattle, but what you describe I think I've seen, hey it is your bull and why not tell whomever you are not appreciating this persons actions, if they tell you to pound salt, so what, again I know nothing about them, but people that's a different story !
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