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Pat-CT

09-21-2007 10:57:57




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im looking at this joh n deere with pretty bad dry rotted tires my question is howlong will they last i do prolly a couple miles of road driving a month the tread is ok but is there a danger of the tire shreading or anything is there any fixing rotted tires?




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Leland

09-22-2007 03:51:20




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
just run it until it blows ,bacause you could get 20 minutes or 20 years out of that tire .and if anything the tube will probley get pinched and go flat long before it explodes as some here are trying to scare you to death . just keep an eye on it if you see any cracks getting loners or new bludges coming on then question it . And you probley only need about 8lbs of air if you are just showing this beast and are not woking it hard .

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Pappy

09-21-2007 23:56:16




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
We have a few weathered tires and I keep them fully aired up to prevent flexing and further cracking.



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Janicholson

09-21-2007 16:43:23




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
When not if. The difficult part is determining the state of the fabric of the tire. If it is not visible in the cracks at all, there is a better chance than even it will last a while. If it is showing, the sun has probably gotten to it and weakened it. There are products to "caulk" tire cracks (some use black urethane window and door sealer, letting it cure for 10 days with the tire off the ground). My brother had a 15psi tire sidewall on his I9 international blow windows out of his house at 30 yards. It sounded like a stick of dynamite. Good luck, JimN

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rrlund

09-21-2007 15:26:12




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
I've told this story before,but here goes again. I tried to save a pair of 9x40s on an Oliver 70 that bought by putting liners in them that I bought from Gemplers. They'd been in there for a few days,I was doing a little work on it and quit to go to town for some things. When I got home,one of them had EXPLODED so hard that it blew the fender off and dented the seat. If I'd have been between there,there is no doubt that it would have killed me. Be extremely careful messing with rotted tires.

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Steven f/AZ

09-21-2007 14:03:24




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
If it"s weathered to the point of breaking through the cords, then it probably won"t last. As long as the cords aren"t broken, I"ve had weathered tires last a long, long time. Tires on our F-14 haven"t worsened in the last 15 years of light use...



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hd6gtom

09-21-2007 11:23:38




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
You ask a question that is very hard to answer. Can you give us more information? Will you be carrying any weight on the rear of the tractor? What size tractor is it? Are the tires 4,6, or 8 ply rated? What brand are the old tires? These are a few of the questions I would have ask anyone who would have come into my tire shop. This information will help us answer your question.



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Mathias NY

09-21-2007 12:57:42




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to hd6gtom, 09-21-2007 11:23:38  
Does the tire have a tube in it? If it does you stand a better chance of having the tire last. The tube is protected from the sun so it won't age like the tire. It also means that the tire doesn't have to contain the air by itself, which may prevent catastophic failure like a blowout.

More details on the tire would help, otherwise any answer is pretty much meaningless.



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Pat-CT

09-21-2007 11:18:59




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
are they safe for road us or will that not work also i was thinking to my self dont know if it will owrk about putting crack sealer in the cracks to prevent it from getting worse



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old

09-21-2007 11:12:20




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Pat-CT, 09-21-2007 10:57:57  
I have seen tires like that last for years and years and then on the other hand I have also seen them not last a week. I know on my Allis WC Speed patrol I have a set of tires that I would have thought would have gone 10 years ago and there still on it and will be till they do go. Now if the tubes don't show and the cracks don't go as deep as showing the tubes they may last for years

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Mike (WA)

09-21-2007 13:38:02




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to old, 09-21-2007 11:12:20  
I kind of got scammed by a local tire store when I took a weathered rear tire in to have it mounted to replace an unusable one. Some weathering around the lugs, but basically sound and no holes in to the tube, and will probably last my lifetime. Guy there said, "We can't mount that- too dangerous- we'd be liable if it blows up and kills somebody, etc., etc. You need a new tire- they'll fix you up at the front counter." Tractor tires are only 12-15 PSI, and if they do blow, there's not enough force to hurt anything- you just have a flat tire. I told them to just mount it, don't do anything else, I'll sign a release if you want. They called the owner, who is a guy I've known since we were kids- they explained what was going on, he looked at me and got kind of red-faced and told them to go ahead and mount it, no charge. Told me, sorry about the misunderstanding. He knew he'd been caught, and knew I knew.

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135 Fan

09-21-2007 19:40:01




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to Mike (WA), 09-21-2007 13:38:02  
You say 12 to 15 psi won't hurt anything. First read a few of the posts above. It takes volume as well as pressure to cause damage. About a month ago I heard what sounded like dynamite going off. It was a wheelbarrow tire! I used to work in an oil field tank shop. Most of the tanks got tested with 1 1/2 to 2 psi. When you opened the valve to let the air out, you would think there was 120 psi coming out of the 3/4 or 1 inch valve. It made a lot of noise and was a pretty strong wind force if you walked in front of it. One time one of the test plugs blew out because it wasn't tightened enough. It's an expanding rubber ring that's tightened with a wing nut. I was welding fittings on the side of a 400 barrel tank on the other side of the shop and the plug flew across the shop and shook the tank I was on and missed me by about 6 feet. Five minutes later I had to come off the tank that was on rollers. If the plug would have blown out then it would have blew me off the tank. If I was driving a tractor on the road, I'd want good tires but it all depends on how good you are at fixing it if it blows or how much hassle it would be. Dave

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David Snipes

09-28-2007 08:29:15




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 Re: weatherd tires in reply to 135 Fan, 09-21-2007 19:40:01  
Fluid in the tire would reduce the air volume and lessen any explosive force.



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