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OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup

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Nebraska K

09-18-2007 21:12:42




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I want to put a pto on my Dodge pickup. It is a 1980 3/4 ton Power Wagon. After looking at a few on the internet, it looks like I need to know what type of transfer case I have. Can anybody tell how to find this out? Thanks for the help.

Nebraska K




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Nebraska K

09-19-2007 17:51:23




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
Thanks for the help guys. All the pto that I looked at said they mounted on the transfer case, I assumed that they could mount on the transmission. I will have a look when I get a minute. Thanks again.

Nebraska K



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jdemaris

09-19-2007 05:40:45




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
Crawl under it, read the tag and/or see if it's cast iron or aluminum.

Most 1980 Dodge 3/4 trucks used aluminum NP208s - but I've seen a few with the cast-iron NP205s if ordered heavy. My 1969 W200 Power Wagon has the NP205, and so does my 1992 W250 - but it's a heavy 3/4 ton with the Cummins diesel. My neighbor has a 95 heavy 3/4 ton with the Cummins and his has the aluminum NP208.

Doesn't your trans have a PTO door - or is it automatic?

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fixerupper

09-19-2007 05:56:38




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to jdemaris, 09-19-2007 05:40:45  
JD, does your '79 have the close ratio four speed? My '79 W200 came with what they call a close ratio 4 speed, meaning granny gear is faster and all four are syncronized. It seems to be a hard one to find parts for. Jim



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jdemaris

09-19-2007 06:10:23




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to fixerupper, 09-19-2007 05:56:38  
Mine is a 69, not 79 - and has the HD four-speed with non-synchro low gear and a separate transfercase with a little driveshaft inbetween.

You've probably got the A833 trans made by New Process. Four speed, side-cover with separate shift linkage, came in cast-iron or aluminum. All synchro and fourth is an overdrive. Dodge used it in cars from 1964 - 1980, and light trucks 1976 - 1985. Chevy and GMC also used it 1981 - 1986 and called it the NP833 - RPO code MY6. I've got several of them - including in my 1982 K10 6.2 diesel pickup and an 84 6.2 diesel 1/2 ton van. It has a max. engine-torque rating of 260, 1st gear - 3.09. 2nd gear - 1.67, 3rd gear - 1, and fourth OD -.73, and reverse - 3.

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fixerupper

09-19-2007 10:28:30




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to jdemaris, 09-19-2007 06:10:23  
Oh golly, I should learn how to read my numbers. Anyway, thanks for giving me some info I did not know. I had to replace it about ten years ago because it locked up. It was full of oil and it was not pulling a load. Finding another one was a chore. Thanks again for the info. Jim



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jdemaris

09-19-2007 05:43:50




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 Re: Correction in reply to jdemaris, 09-19-2007 05:40:45  
One note about my neighbor's 1995 Dodge W250. His transfercase is the aluminum NP241,not the NP208. THe NP241 took the place of the NP208 in 1988.



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workhorse

09-19-2007 05:31:51




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
After burning out no less than three transfer cases in my 95 dodge 1 ton, I finally figured out when the pto is in gear, with the transfer case in neutral the oil pump on the transfer case is not turning. You may be ok if you are driving while the pto is engaged but setting and running for a long period of time will cause problems. If possible put the pto on the main transmission.



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Allan In NE

09-19-2007 06:02:21




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to workhorse, 09-19-2007 05:31:51  
You mean to tell me that those Dodge Boys didn't tell you to jack up one rear wheel and let it spin? Geeze! :>)

Yep, oil pump is on the rear output shaft.

Allan



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IaGary

09-19-2007 05:11:27




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
I put a PTO on a 79 F150.

The case had a hole just waiting for the PTO.

I ran a shaft clear out the back with 540 splines.

Had hogs on another farm and hauled the feed to them in a Heider auger wagon. Boy was handy.

Saved running a tractor down the road 5 miles every other day.

Used it to run grain augers a couple of times also.

It was a automatic transmission so you would put the transfer case in nuetral and put the gear shift in drive.

It worked good.

Gary

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Allan In NE

09-19-2007 05:19:15




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to IaGary, 09-19-2007 05:11:27  
That '79 had a cast iron transfer case, didn't it? Thought the '80s were all aluminum?

Allan



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IaGary

09-19-2007 05:26:49




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Allan In NE, 09-19-2007 05:19:15  
Yes it did have an iron case, Allan.

Don't know the applications on any other trucks.

Just know that the PTO was a handy little bugger.(:~})

Gary



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Allan In NE

09-19-2007 03:52:51




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
Running into my "memory failure" thing again, but it seems to me that you'll need a transfer case out of a tonner. Don't think the little ones had the take-off plate.

The case ID can be found on a red, round sticker on the rear of the chain enclosure.

Also, if your pickup has a standard transmission, you should be able to come right off of the cluster gear for your PTO.

Allan



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davpal

09-18-2007 22:37:30




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
More than likely you will need a New Process 205 gear drive cast iron transfer case. It seems like my old 1976 ford 3/4 ton hi boy truck had a place on the side of the transfer case where there was a cover where you could take it off and put a pto unit on there. It is really pretty common on some of the utilty trucks for the power companies. You could probably go to a truck junkyard and pick up the entire unit off a running truck. Good luck.

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BLinWMi

09-19-2007 05:57:58




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to davpal, 09-18-2007 22:37:30  
The old Dodge trucks did not have the option of having a PTO from the transfer cases. I do not remember the TC number used but we had 2 Power Wagons, a '79 and an '80. The 79 was a stick that had been used as a wrecker at one time and when we got it, it was still equipped with the side mount PTO. Every Dodge truck I have worked on has had a NP TC but there were several model numbers. The only one I have to look at currently is a 89 with the Getrag 360 and a NP 205. The Getrag has a side plate to mount a PTO on the right side. From the Dodges I have worked on, a TC PTO is not possible. The only way a PTO is possible is by running it off the input shaft in the tranny. I have used several Dodge wreckers and the hydraulics were run by the pto. If the PTO were run off the TC, there would be no live PTO. The TC only turns when the truck is in motion, so there would be no hydraulics while the wrecker was sitting stationary to hook up to a vehicle.

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banjo

09-18-2007 22:31:40




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 Re: OT Type of transfer case on a Dodge pickup in reply to Nebraska K, 09-18-2007 21:12:42  
should be able to crawl under there and look on the transfer case. Might be cast into it somewhere or have a tag on it.



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