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Bent Drawbar II

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Lanse

09-17-2007 04:23:07




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What was I thinking?? I was thinking my $20 TSC drawbar was safer since it could be lowered further to the ground. The tree was probabally about 10' high, could almostreach top of it with the loader (plan A was to lower the loader and back up, but I got the loader up there and decided that was a bad idea ). Oh, my Mom was about 20' away, Thanks for your advice.

Another question, the fixed drawbar thats on the thing has two holes for a pin, nothing I could wrap a chain around. How would you guys attatch it?

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Bob Kerr

09-17-2007 19:41:46




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Oh Lanse! Glad you saw the light. pulling down trees with a chain or rope is a super bad idea. You can pull them over right on top of you like that. A ot of people are killed every year from tractor /tree incidents. Dead ones are ones to never get a tractor near either. if you push them with the bucket, the top can snap off and land on you or flip the tractor over or both. Cab or not I have seen a tractor with a cab totally smashed flat by a tree. It wasn"t ours and the wind blew the tree over on it so no one was in it at the time. I don"t even like to drive a tractor near a dead one! I have been working in the woods with tractors since I was about 12 or so and am now 46.I use the chainsaw to drop them while the tractor is far away and then hook the tree to the log with the top cut off to pull it away. I have had some dead trees break the tops off just by pushing the trunk by hand! One thing I can safely say, you can"t get off a tractor fast enough to get out of the way of a falling tree or limbs and a tractor sure will not out run one. See if Mom will spring for a chainsaw or have someone drop the tree for you. It is a lot less painful than a hospital stay or a funeral. Be careful.

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kyplowboy

09-17-2007 18:03:37




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Lanse,

Like the others said, if you are going to pull stuff with a chain buy a clevis. We all on here have pulled stuff we should not have. No one on here is try"n to be mean to you, just don"t want to see you hurt. We have all pulled stuff too big for the tractor, wraped a chain around a pull pin, and the list goes on. Buy a clevis, keep it on your tractor. When you use it, back up as close as you can to the object to be pulled. Get the chain as short as you can. Ease out on the clutch till it is tight, in low gear, and give it a steady pull. If the tree don"t move, get the chain saw, cut it up some and leave the stump to rot out or dig around it some, don"t yank on it. If you are pull"n som"tin out of the mud do the same thing, if it don"t move, dig around it, or wait till the ground drys up some. Good luck, and be careful.

Dave (who only has a few grey whiskers at 29 but can tell you where he got all of them)

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preacherman

09-17-2007 17:57:39




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Good thinking, now you are using that thing on your shoulders for something other than a hat rack. Be careful and have fun with your new tractor.



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Lanse

09-17-2007 14:31:18




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
The tractor is a Kuboder B3030 with a loader and cab. That is where the link will take you.

Well, I too will admit I am still alive only by the grace of god, thinking back on some of the crazy stuff I have pulled...Face it-probability says I should have been killed a dozen times by now-and Im only 14!!! While writing this I hurt my nose trying to kill a fly. And I am sitting down.

Seriously though, I am trying not to pull any stunts, and think some things over.

I do know wnought not to hitch anything to the top link bracket except a top link for obvisius reasons. I know someone around here who had his legs ripped off by a farmall and a bush hog, and I dont take chances with the PTO. I always have and will wait for it to stop before I hop off the seat, have never done anything stupid with a PTO and I dont plan to.

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Charlie Claxton

09-17-2007 16:55:20




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 14:31:18  
Call child protective services, I believe your mom and dad are trying to get the money back they've been out on you the past 14 years.



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Dairy farmer in WI

09-17-2007 18:12:38




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Charlie Claxton, 09-17-2007 16:55:20  
why don't you quit being such an @$$!! you werwe a kid breaking stuff at one time too! not all kids are bad!!! heck i was putting head haskets in tractors at age 14! working for a farmer at 13. now i got my own farm. i always hate it when people just automaticly assume kids just break stuff and don't care. i'm sure you've broken your share of stuff as a kid too! JUST LAY OFF AND GROW UP!! THE FORUMS ARE NOT FOR CRITISIZING PEOPLE AND BEING STUPID!
GROW UP!!

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Don-Wi

09-17-2007 09:22:25




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
yup, get a clevis. If not a clevis, there has to be another way. Sometimes if we don't have the clevis with us we'll stick the draw pin in the hole and wrap the chain around the drawbar behind the pin. Ussually have the clevis with us though, and the Oliver's don't need it because of how the drawbar supposrt was designed- it's really easy to wrap a chain around it. The Masey's we've got are a little harder to wrap a chain around the supposrt for the swinging drawbar so we use the clevis.

And if that tree hasn't been dead for very long, you'll never get it out with a Kubota. We let trees rot down for atleast 4-5 years before we try to remove them if ewe can, otherwise we'll never get them out without digging some first.

Donovan from Wisconsin
Donovan from Wisconsin

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cj3b_jeep

09-17-2007 08:33:38




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Saw my idiot neighbor almost flip his 9n over backwards pulling a stuck truck out. The problem? He was pulling from the three point. If you hook to the drawbar it puts the pulling force down under the tractor, putting more weigh on the wheels giving you more traction.



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Haywood

09-17-2007 08:18:22




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
CONCLUSION

In the final analysis, safety is largely a matter of common sense and patience. Your Kubota equipment has been designed and built with your safety in mind, but a tractor and its attachments are unable to control their own operation, or to choose the environment in which they work. You, the operator, have the ultimate responsibility for safe operation lies with you, the operator.

We at Kubota wish you safe operating! Follow The Ten Commandments of Tractor Safety faithfully.

If you have any questions, please consult your Kubota dealer.

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Haywood

09-17-2007 08:22:07




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Haywood, 09-17-2007 08:18:22  
The Drawbar Hitch

Hitch only to the drawbar when pulling a load - it's the only safe place for any kind of pulling or towing. Hitching to the axle or top link bracket can cause the tractor to flip over backwards very quickly. Be sure no loose chains, ropes or cables are dangling or dragging from either the tractor or the implement. They can catch under a wheel, on a stump or on a rock and cause a serious or fatal accident.

Back To The Top

Power Take-Off

An operating power take-off (PTO) can be the most dangerous part of your tractor, which is why extra caution is necessary. Always keep the protection shields in place. An unguarded rotating shaft is very powerful, and can entangle your clothes at a rate too fast to be stopped in time. NEVER, EVER work around rotating parts. Shut the tractor down, remove the key and wait for everything to stop turning before entering the PTO area.

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Haywood

09-17-2007 08:25:20




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Haywood, 09-17-2007 08:22:07  
Children

Tragedy can occur if the operator is not alert to the presence of children. Children are generally attracted to tractors and the work they do.

Never assume that children will remain where you last saw them. Keep children out of the work area and under the watchful eye of another responsible adult. Be alert and shut your tractor down if children enter the work area. Never carry children on your tractor. There is no safe place for them to ride. They may fall off and be run over or interfere with your control of the machine. Never allow children to operate the tractor, even under adult supervision. Never allow children to play on the tractor or implement. Use extra caution when backing up, look behind and down - make sure area is clear before moving. When parking your tractor, if at all possible, park on flat ground; if not, park across a slope. Set the parking brake(s), lower the implements to the ground, remove the key from the ignition and lock the cab door (if equipped) and chock the wheels.

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RobMD

09-17-2007 10:00:20




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Haywood, 09-17-2007 08:25:20  
LOL



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Haywood

09-17-2007 08:36:07




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Haywood, 09-17-2007 08:25:20  
Lanse, These were post were from the kubota website on tractor Safety.

You should have gotten a manual with your tractor that covers this and important maintanance information. I Encourage you and your folks to read the manual and Check the Kubota site for information.

Print out the Tractor safety Coloring book for the little neighbor kids and tell them how important it is to be smart about tractors.

PS. Maintanence tip for you. Check and clean the screen in front of your radiator daily.
They plug quickly, cause rapid overheat and the radiators melt.

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RobMD

09-17-2007 07:55:42




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Lemme tell you something else, Don't you EVER pull something with the loader way up in the air. You're smart, figure out what happens if you do.



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Mathias NY

09-17-2007 04:58:08




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
Buy a $5 clevis from TSC, they are usually to the left of the rack you picked the 3pt drawbar from. I don't know how big your tractor is, but I would buy a bigger one than you think you need. That way you will never break it...



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j105

09-17-2007 04:56:23




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
a clevis



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IaGary

09-17-2007 04:55:39




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to Lanse, 09-17-2007 04:23:07  
With a clevis and pin to the drawbar.

Gary



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KEH

09-17-2007 15:19:58




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 Re: Bent Drawbar II in reply to IaGary, 09-17-2007 04:55:39  

Also don't carry a load in the loader bucket with the bucket up high except very slowly in a straight line. Don't make sudden turns with the loader high.

KEH



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