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Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak?

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Kent in KC

09-10-2007 13:59:12




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I was pulling the gas tank on my JD 2020 (to seal it with Red Kote) when the air cleaner slipped and made a pin hole leak in one of the radiator tubes. I drained the tank and power washed around the leak. It is easily accessible now and plainly visible.

Rather than pull the radiator and take it to a radiator shop, I am pondering doing it myself. Question: is there a good risk/benefit ratio here or should I leave it to the pros? How delicate an operation is that (i.e. would I stand a chance of melting the radiator tube) or is it a simple repair the average Joe can do? What type of solder would be correct? I'm figuring on using a simple propane torch.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

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dave guest

09-11-2007 09:09:48




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Think you want rosin solder and flux. Unless you want another leak or have some way to neutralize the acid. You don't use acid on copper wire. Probably okay if you like to solder. Fine with me, I usually remove tanks, top and bottom, crimp tubes on both ends and solder as previously stated. Super clean and shiny metal.



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Joe(TX)

09-11-2007 09:28:35




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to dave guest, 09-11-2007 09:09:48  
You actually need acid core or flux solder for radiadtiors. That is what the shops use as well as plumbers. You can wash down a radiator unlike an electrical joint.



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dave guest

09-11-2007 09:09:15




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Think you want rosin solder and flux. Unless you want another leak or have some way to neutralize the acid. You don't use acid on copper wire. Probably okay if you like to solder. Fine with me, I usually remove tanks, top and bottom, crimp tubes on both ends and solder as previously stated.



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Oldmax

09-11-2007 04:40:18




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
I would say let a shop do it, but if you want to try it yourself. go for it, but make sure you test it before you put back in .



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davpal

09-10-2007 22:11:57




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Really quite easy to do on a brass radiator. Especially if it is out and laying down. I just did it on a ford 9n this summer. I did that standing up and it was a little tougher. You can just use a small torch and make sure it is very clean with a touch of muriatic acid. Get the solder close to the hole and slowly bring in the torch and aim it at the hole and the solder at the same time. The solder will form a perfect bubble over the repair and you are done. Pressure check it and reinstall it. That is it. Good luck.

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RAB

09-10-2007 21:55:55




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Workhorse or show? Different approach maybe.

I have body-filled parts of radiators where damage has occurred. Works great and is permanent if done properly. Down side is loss of the area as a radiator where the body filler is spread. Have successfully fixed radiators damaged by being hit with a rotating fan.

Solder as you are trying. Down side is if the tubes are soldered in production you may open up more than you close! Especially without a solder iron and with a bare flame around the other tubes.

With one damaged tube. Cut it, open it and inject sealant into both open ends as far as it can be got. Crimp/bend over the ends so the filler is trapped and forget it.

Remove the top and bottom tanks and solder shut that one or more faulty tubes. Easier to do if air can escape from hole in tube. One end is easy, the other can keep blowing through unless the hole (leak) is large enough to prevent the hot air in the tube expanding. This is my usual approach if the radiator is like that as there is no further visual damage to the radiator and if the leak is on an inner row, there is no alternative.

Take it to the experts. It is only a small job and the consequences of getting it wrong can be expensive.

Regards, RAB

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IH2444

09-10-2007 20:16:31




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
They make some aluminum soldering sticks now that even work nicely on the aluminum cored radiators.

I have even crimped and soldered shut a few tubes on a radiator that had a stick poked thru it.
Worked fine.



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Kent in KC

09-10-2007 19:45:42




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Thank you, gentlemen. I'll give er a go.



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georgeky

09-10-2007 14:56:35




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Patched many of them that way. Works very well. As Soundguy said you need that flux in order for it to stick good.



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soundguy

09-10-2007 14:54:40




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Ditto what the others said.. use some steel wool to get to clean shiny metal. A soft brass brush would work as well.

Use some paste flux on it.. the more the better. if you use a propane torch, start heating it like you are sweating a pipe.. take your solder and dip it inthe paste flux and start scratching around the hole.. if it wets.. go for it.. just a drip of solder ove rthe hole will do it.

Remember to have the raddrained and the cap open to prevent heat pressure from blowing the drip of solder off. Also..orient the radiator ( if removed ) so that the hole is 'on top'.. etc..

clean after you are done.

soundguy

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R Aiken

09-10-2007 14:45:55




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
Go ahead give it a try, cant no more than have a bigger hole for the man uptown.



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Coloken

09-10-2007 14:36:18




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 Re: Is it feasible/sensible to solder a radiator leak? in reply to Kent in KC, 09-10-2007 13:59:12  
If it is a standard copper one..easy. Get it dry, clean good, and use any acid solder. A large copper soldering iron might be safer, but the torch if you are care full, small pin point flame. By care full, I mean watch out for any other soldered places close. Don't want to melt them.



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