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rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat

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Dave from MN

09-06-2007 11:48:11

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Have a 18 acre feild i rented($20/acre-this will be my 1st crop planting), sandier soil,been a failed pasture mix feild for the last 3 years, It is pretty dry here yet, (central MN) what would some of you experienced guys recommend, rye, winter wheat, or drill in spring wheat in the spring. FYI, I plan on adding light chicken manure and planting soybeans for following spring of "09

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Budn

09-07-2007 15:16:58

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

I agree with the Round up. I would go with the spring wheat because you have a good market for it and no risk of winter kill that you can get around here. I live in west central MN.

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bluepaint

09-06-2007 21:56:42

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

Roundup...leave it sit for 10 days and then work it real good and oats in the spring

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paul

09-06-2007 19:42:08

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

I'd spray roundup, wait 7 days, plant rye _if_ you can find a market for it, combine it with the straw chopper engaged next summer to make good staw. Plan on driving slow, there tends to be a _lot_ of straw. If it's worth a little less, you get a lot more....

Hard part is finding a market for rye any more. Used to be a lot going through New Ulm, both the rye mill (which burned down) and Burdick (which changed owners a couple times now) were buyers back in the day.

We had trouble with winter wheat freezing out back in the '70s, gave up on that. But those were harsh winters, maybe works better now. Spring wheat typically gives better protien around here, and that is what they pay for, so I'd lean to spring wheat if no market for rye.

Don't do the manure too heavy, makes small grains lodge if it gets too rich.

--->Paul

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Bill(Wis)

09-06-2007 16:11:46

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

Cereal rye this fall. Drill roundup ready soybeans right into the growing rye in the spring. Kill rye with roundup. Send pictures. PS: My advice is "Free".

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Dave from MN

09-06-2007 19:04:59

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Bill(Wis), 09-06-2007 16:11:46

"Send Pictures"????? Ok, ya stumped me on that one.

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JMS/MN

09-06-2007 13:13:37

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

Not much of a market for rye or rye straw. If you can seed it by 9-10, 15, winter wheat will work, otherwise go with spring grain- either wheat, barley, or oats. I know where you live (isn't that a scary thought?), east of SC- so on that ground I wouldn't get too wild with the chicken manure. Lotsa N, ok with adequate water, but bad in a year like this one. Regarding straw value- oats is most absorbent, but others like barley, wheat, rye, -not nearly as good unless chopped. If your market is cover for highway projects, might not matter. Knife River or their subs might want whatever you raise.

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Dave from MN

09-06-2007 13:46:00

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to JMS/MN, 09-06-2007 13:13:37

It is late to hit I guess, but it just came up, they are new freinds and said have at it, they were trying to grow hay for their horses. I was just gonna hit it good with that there "chisel-vator" with the harrow and seed it in, should be able to do that in a day, or should I leave it set a bit before I drill the seed.

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JMS/MN

09-08-2007 12:01:15

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 13:46:00

I'd seed it right away. If you wait you're just gonna lose more moisture with that second pass. Latest I ever seeded was in '83- I seeded alfalfa on Sept 15 on set-aside ground, using either oats or barley for a fall cover crop. Rain was forecast, and I decided it is now or next spring. Drizzling when I finished, but it grew some before freeze-up, and had a nice alfalfa stand in the spring.

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mjbrown

09-06-2007 12:55:07

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

What do you have for harvesting machinery? Place to store grain or sell out of the field? What kind of straw market?
If you have baling equipment, and a straw market you can plant winter rye and cut before it is ripe, let it bleach in the field a few days and bale for straw. A lot of guys here in NY do that because we have a strong market for staw.
Winter wheat is a good option if you can get it combined and trucked then bale the straw. You get the best price for wheat if you can store it for a while and wait for a better price. It will need some starter fertilizer then another shot of N at green up in the spring.

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IaGary

09-06-2007 12:08:31

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

If you got enough moisture to germinate the seed this fall I would put wheat in.

You get best moisture thru the winter and spring to develope the crop.

Or do as Allan says and lease it out.(:~})

Gary

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Allan In NE

09-06-2007 11:59:10

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Dave from MN, 09-06-2007 11:48:11

Sublet it for $50 an acre? :>)

Allan

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JMS/MN

09-06-2007 13:22:38

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to Allan In NE, 09-06-2007 11:59:10

Hey, Bud- that sounds like a legitimate bid! You can rent my F2 to harvest it- I'm only 40 miles away, but I'm on heavy clay and get $120 for what I rent out. Still have the 800 swather, ready to fire up..... ...you'd enjoy the MN summers, land, and lakes!

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Allan In NE

09-06-2007 14:49:11

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Re: rye, winter wheat, or spring wheat in reply to JMS/MN, 09-06-2007 13:22:38

Hi Guy,

You were right about the F's cylinder bars and concaves. Can't get the chrome ones anymore unless ya go aftermarket.

So, I just ordered the plain-jane series. Heck, they'll probably outlast me anyhoo. :>)

Pleasantly surprised that I could still buy that lower clean grain elevator boot. It comes with the door too.

Allan

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