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OT Reason for slow transplanting speed

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PhilcaseinWPa

08-30-2007 07:10:40




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Sometime in a previous discussion someone wondered why i was so worried about going slower while transplanting. Some transplanters may be more automatic and allow the persons planting to go faster but our waterwheel requires the plant to be set into the mud by hand. The better job you do setting the plant the better chance of survival. My CIH 885 in low range 1st gear with the TA pulled at idle can pull our transplanter with 2 people riding and 110 gallons of water. It goes about 36' per minute. With our spacing of 2' between tomatoes and 2 people transplanting they have over 6 seconds to set each plant. With tomatoes 1 person can keep up. When we do peppers we plant a double staggered row with the plants 17" apart in each row Each person setting plants has less than 2.5 seconds. I would like to go even closer with some crops so there would be even less time. The link is to a video of my wife and sister planting peppers. They are hustling and everything was going pretty smooth. Granted it might be a little quicker if all the plants were pulled from the cells beforehand but btdt and you can get a lot of tangled plants. Sorry this post was so long but I wanted to explain why I am still looking for something slower, probably a good hydro machine.

Phil

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Jim in NC

08-30-2007 11:16:32




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 07:10:40  
Hey George, I think RJR sold Kraft to, of all companies, Altria, the parent co. of Phillip Morris. I live about 15 miles from RJR's headquarters. Have you had enuff water to make your tobacco? The flue-cured around looks the worst I have ever seen it. Many could make half or 2/3 of a crop if it would rain. Most has not been primed. could not cure it if it was. there is not enuff sap in it to yellow it. It is very common to see fields that have not been topped. Even if we had rain and it came back out, there would be no way it could be harvested before frost.

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georgeky

08-30-2007 11:28:16




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to Jim in NC, 08-30-2007 11:16:32  
Jim, got a bumper crop. Just enough rain for a good one. Grass is dry. but it needs more than tobacco does. I bet Phillip Morris is the parent company. This is what I am talking about. These tobacco companies have been busy for the last 10 years seperating their holdings into other companies to cover themselves. Nonetheless tobacco companies control most of the food companies as well as many other things in this country that folks just are not aware of. Big tobacco is still one of the most powerful industries in the country if not the most powerful.

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Jim in NC

08-30-2007 12:31:50




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to georgeky, 08-30-2007 11:28:16  
I think this year's crop will cause more local growers here to put their buyout money in their pocket rather than in the ground or tobacco.



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georgeky

08-30-2007 13:40:00




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to Jim in NC, 08-30-2007 12:31:50  
I ws one of the few who were fortunate enough not to get one nickel from the buyout and they took the other 6 payments from the master settlement. I didn't have any tobacco in 2002 the year they finally based the buyout on. It was suppose to go back to 98, but they change the rules as they go.



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Allan In NE

08-30-2007 10:25:15




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 07:10:40  
Phil,

Ya know, a Hydro would really fit your operation to a T. You can slow 'em down to a crawl.

Let me know when you're ready to deal and I'll get this one ready to ship your way. :>)

Allan

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georgeky

08-30-2007 07:49:34




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 07:10:40  
Phil, that was me. I see now that you are really setting two rows at once. I don't use that type of transplanter. I use the Model 22 Mechanical and no plastic. Two people are setting one row with it. The trick on any of them is have both hands working at all times. While one is setting the other is reaching for another plant. We still cultivate all our crops and don't mess with the plastic. Some folks around here do though. We set on 40 inch rows at 16 to 20 inch spacing for tobacco, peppers,cabbage, brocoli and such. On tomato's we just skip every other setter pocket and set those at 32 to 40 inch spacing. I do see were slower would work better for you. Thanks for the vidio.

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PhilcaseinWPa

08-30-2007 08:23:45




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to georgeky, 08-30-2007 07:49:34  
I use plastic on just about everything except sweet corn and beans. We lay drip tape under the plastic and can trickle irrigate and fertigate as needed ... or when I get around to it. The plastic has it's advantages but also disadvantages also. Picking it up and disposal is a real pain. We use mostly black 1 mil embossed plastic but I use some white plastic for cabbage and lettuce. The white is heavier and mor expensive because it is a layer of black and a layer of white. For some pictures of our farm go here>Link
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My daughter is doing a blog of this summer on our farm also go here
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Well if you have time to play on the computer you can visit those sites, some photos are duplicates.

Phil

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georgeky

08-30-2007 08:57:26




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 08:23:45  
Phil, I will try to check it out. My computer time is about to slow way down for a week or so. Going to start cutting tobacco Saturday if the Mexicans show up. They can cut it all in a couple days, but will take 3 or 4 to hang it. Took me 2 and 1/2 weeks last year, but me and the boys done it ourselves. They are working in town now, so I have to recruit help. There will be 8 or 9 of these boys so it wont take as long as it did with 4 of us. I figured all that plastic was a pain to fool with. I think I will stick to my way and cultivate and side dress with the tractor. I have an old irrigation outfit to water with if I have to.

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PhilcaseinWPa

08-30-2007 09:38:34




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to georgeky, 08-30-2007 08:57:26  
Hey george,

My wife's family used to grow tobacco in Lebanon County, PA. She talks about using 'tobacco lath' and hanging the tobacco in the tobacco shed. I think they used Puerto Rico workers then. They got out of it long ago and went to all dairy. Now the farm has been sold out of the family but it is still a farm. I think all the tobacco they grew was for cigar wrappers.

Phil



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georgeky

08-30-2007 10:20:07




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to PhilcaseinWPa, 08-30-2007 09:38:34  
Phil we raise all burley here. We cut it and place on a 4 and 1/2 foot sticks. 6 stalks to the stick. then hang on rails spaced 4 feet apart and spread it out on the stick to air cure. Mostly used for cigarettes. Lots of folks here have quit as well, but some of us old hard heads are still at it. Still lots of around, just fewer people are raising more of it now. It is so labor intensive that it cost lots of money to raise it. With the buyout came a 50 cent per pound decrease in price. The stuff I buy keeps going up and the stuff I sell is going down. This can not last this way. I suspect that before to long it will all be raised in other countries and inported to the US. The people here are not happy until they force everything they don't agree with out. It only hurts the farmers. There is so much money involved with it that it is going to remain legal, American farmers will be left out. The big tobacco companies will take Bankruptcy here and move all operations out of the country and send their products right back in here. They own most the food conpanies now, and have been busy the last few years seperating their holdings. Just look on anything made by Kraft. Kraft is owned by the RJ Reynolds tobacco company. It use to say RJR Nabisco on all their products. Now the RJR has been taken off of everything they make and companies moved to other holding companies to protect them from the liability of tobacco suits. It is only a matter of time.

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Jim in NC

08-30-2007 11:20:51




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to georgeky, 08-30-2007 10:20:07  
George, see my response to you above. I put it in the wrong place.



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georgeky

08-30-2007 12:00:04




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 Re: OT Reason for slow transplanting speed in reply to Jim in NC, 08-30-2007 11:20:51  
Jim, I done a little research and it seems that Kraft was sold to Altria. I hadn't heard of this until now. RJR does still own Nabisco it seems though. Hard to keep up with all this buying and selling. Much less the hostile take overs and all that stuff. Also read were they had already moved all their overseas sales facilities to Europe. It is coming.



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