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OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building

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Kirk Grau

08-21-2007 07:35:48




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Sorry for the OT post, but there seems to be a lot of electrical expertise here.

I have a building adjacent to our riding ring. My daughter would like to add lights to the ring for occasional use as the days get shorter. I have a portable generator already that pretty much lives back in this building since it has kind of morphed into the tractor/equipment shed. I can get the local supply house to select some fixtures with the understanding that we are not trying to light the whole space, just give her an end to do some work.

My question is...what is the minimum materials list needed to power this from the generator. I don't anticipate ever tieing this building onto the grid so a transfer switch is certainly not necessary, but I think I should have some circuit protection as well.

What should I worry about for grounding?

Probably have other questions that will just get answered by the collective experts here.

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Kirk

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Q-Ball

08-21-2007 19:19:34




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Kirk Grau, 08-21-2007 07:35:48  
A book by Stephen Chastain called Generators and Inverters, available from Lindsay Publications give much information on remote power.



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havvey

08-21-2007 13:42:55




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Kirk Grau, 08-21-2007 07:35:48  
I have on entire farm off grid, generator run, hooked up properly (neighbor and brother in law are electritians). For occasional use a portable and lights/cords would work. Be carfull if it caught fire your insurance might baulk. Also hay barns and other buildings we have run a portable and those 1000 watt light,trees or stands. (tempory use)



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Mike M

08-21-2007 10:57:21




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Kirk Grau, 08-21-2007 07:35:48  
How big of gen. and how many lights ? Sounds like a few lights and some extension cords will get it done.



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Kirk Grau

08-21-2007 11:33:07




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Mike M, 08-21-2007 10:57:21  
That's pretty much how my daughter puts it as well and I certainly could go that route. Just thinking I would like to permanently mount the lights and make it reasonably clean.

To address your question it would probably be 3-500W quartz fixtures mounted on the building. Generator is 5.5kW (I don't remember right now if that is peak or average output)

I am thinking a small 30A distribution panel with some sort of receptacle to tie in the generator when necessary. Probably just use the breaker as switches, and whatever ground is necessary. Then if I ever run power back there it would be set up already.

Just my thoughts, I am trying to tap the vast expertise of this forum for better ideas or design refinements to reduce cost or increase functionality.

Thanks,

Kirk

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buickanddeere

08-21-2007 07:50:36




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Kirk Grau, 08-21-2007 07:35:48  
Around here it doesn't matter the source of the electricity. The structures, supply protection etc all has to be built to the National Electrical Code. Depending if the generator runs a open or bonded neutral. The main panel would have to have the bonding screw cranked in or out. Two 10ft ground rods driven full depth at least 10ft apart and connected with a min of #6 bare copper is required. Any water pipes and metal stalls also need to be bonded to the one ground bond location. How far is this shed from the nearest hydro service?

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Kirk Grau

08-21-2007 08:20:36




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to buickanddeere, 08-21-2007 07:50:36  
Thanks for the reply. We do not anticipate ever having water or electric extended back here. It is roughly 1000 feet from the buildings/house/etc.

Kirk



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buickanddeere

08-21-2007 10:23:47




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to Kirk Grau, 08-21-2007 08:20:36  
Running some #10 copper or #8 aluminum for a 120/240V 15A service might not be too expensive. 3/4" plastic water pipe isn't bad either. Lot handier, reliable and quieter than a generator. Lights on one circuit and a receptacle on the other.



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Blackhole49

08-21-2007 11:59:10




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 Re: OT - Generator Power at a Remote Building in reply to buickanddeere, 08-21-2007 10:23:47  
When you figure the price of gas, probably a whole lot cheaper.



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