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Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment.

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steve n carol

08-07-2007 08:36:20




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Again I am on the cutting edge of technology (HA).
I have 75 gallons of Hyd fluid from past systems oil changes that I would like to recycle by burning in my diesel tractors.

OM, I read on another board your comment about one individual inserting a breather hose into the Hyd resivor... Got me thinking...

Asuming that the hyd oil is clear/clean, any comments on how to, or how much, hyd oil to mix w/the diesel fuel to have it burn in the diesel systems???

Again, doing my part to add to global warming and cooling...sl

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steve n carol

08-07-2007 20:50:35




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
thank you, thank you, thank you.

Great to have the accumulated advise of this community. I belive I will leave well enough alone. especially since some of this was used with wet clutches...thanks again...sl

The oil burner heater is a thought!



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MSD

08-07-2007 20:29:47




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
My son started running it in his old 98Dodge Cummings last winter. Truck has 250,000 miles on it so he was not to worried about it. Says he gets more power and better mileage out of it. I noticed the tale pipe is white now instead of black. With fuel at $3 a gallon he thought he could buy a new pump and be money ahead yet. One of his buddies that gets the oil from heavy equipment changes says he has been doing it for years without any problems. I don't know the mixture he uses but he said it did get to thick when it got cold so he had to thin it a little more.

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Leland

08-07-2007 16:51:17




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
used hyd oil for fuel NO used motor oil OK if filtered properly ,but don't go near any new electroinc controled engines with that stuff of else $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$in repairs



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souNdguy

08-07-2007 12:22:57




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
I'd -NEVER- run waste oil thru my fuel system.

At best.. I'd get a waste oil burning heater.. or give it / sell it to someone who did..

My injector pump is worth more than a barrel of old oil..

Soundguy



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Larry806

08-07-2007 11:22:47




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
Find someone like me that burns it for heat in the winter . I'm always glad to get used oil in Central Ohio



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hd6gtom

08-07-2007 10:10:14




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
Be careful- some hyd oil has an additive in it, when used in wet clutches, is abrasive. It helps the clutches to hold better. You will probably do you'r self a favor by calling the oil recycling agent in you'r area.



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Walt Davies

08-07-2007 09:40:17




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
Hell if its clean enough to run in your engine as diesel why not put it back in the hydraulic tank.
Walt



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RodInNS

08-07-2007 09:15:58




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
So what catches the fine particles in the oil that are shed by brakes and wet clutches? Some of this grit is so fine that it passes through the hydraulic filters. You sure the fuel filter is going to catch it?
I wouldn't be using it in a fuel system...

Rod



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Vern-MI

08-07-2007 14:37:14




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to RodInNS, 08-07-2007 09:15:58  
I used a 5 micron filter in a high temperature hydraulic system at work. The filter kept plugging up with a fine muck of some sort so we had it analyzed. It turns out that the high temperature oil was washing the teflon pipe dope out of the fittings and the teflon was being trapped in the 5 micron filter.



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RodInNS

08-07-2007 19:08:41




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to Vern-MI, 08-07-2007 14:37:14  
The filters I'm running on the tractors are 20 micron I believe. I'd have to check them to be doubly certain, but I think it's 20. Some may be 10. Regardless, they do miss some stuff...

Rod



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midwest redneck

08-07-2007 09:15:11




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
If you could filter it I would use it for Bar/chain oil for my Sthil saw, or use it for transfluid in a tractor, or cutting oil for machining.



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Michael Soldan

08-07-2007 09:10:20




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
A lot of trucking companies use their used engine oil in the fuel. They have an elaborate filtering system for the used oil before they can burn it in the fuel. I would make sure that whatever you burn in the diesel is clean and filtered..any particle could damage the injector pump.I beleieve that trucking companies use the 5% application..so 10 gallons of used oil in 200 gallons of diesel fuel

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Vern-MI

08-07-2007 09:04:03




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to steve n carol, 08-07-2007 08:36:20  
Sounds like a plan to me. Just keep adding more until you can't stand the smoke and back off a smidgen.



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mark

08-07-2007 09:32:03




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to Vern-MI, 08-07-2007 09:04:03  
I know a man who has 'recycled' all his motor oil, trans fluid, hydraulic oil and anything else that will burn....in his tractors and backhoes for over 30 years. Evidently, it works:). He just dumps it in his bulk tank..... I don't think he bothers with any ratio mix...hehe! I can't bring myself to do do the same in my new JD, but my old one burned lots of motor oil through the engine.



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Ken Macfarlane

08-07-2007 13:38:29




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to mark, 08-07-2007 09:32:03  
I'm guilty of using it as bar oil and oiling the manure spreader chain, but dumping it in the engine, nope.



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RodInNS

08-07-2007 14:11:58




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 Re: Hydraulic oil used as fuel in diesel equipment. in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-07-2007 13:38:29  
I've had a few choppers that used our waste hydraulic oil for bar oil over the last number of years. Seems they're always changing bars and chains, and the bars are mercilessly worn out... We buy our bar oil, and we go through fewer bars too. Seems that never clicked for these guys. They spend more on bars and chains than t would have cost them in bar oil.
You might luck out with engine oil at times, but hydraulic is just a No-no in my books.


Rod

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