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Pat H.

08-02-2007 06:18:36




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Some time ago I posted a question on the forum entitled, "Tractor seems starved for gas" and asked for any suggestions. I got a lot of good answers on the forum but my Super M still had the problem of running fine for a few minutes then start acting like it was starved or out of gas then would die. It would restart in a few minutes but only run for a few seconds (and move a few feet)then die again. The starter would turn the engine over rapidly but then after a time (if I didn"t wait long enough) it wouldn"t start at all and by that time the battery would run down. The obvious thought was an obstruction in the gas LINE and carburetor but I didn"t think about the tank unless something was in there restricting the flow. One fellow did mention that a fly had gotten in his tank but I couldn"t think of anything that might have gotten in MY tank. I rebuilt the carburetor (checked the filter in the line to the carburetor (which was clean), blew out the gas line,and even changed the battery and polished up all electrical terminals because I thought I might have had an electrical problem too, fired her up and everything was fine until I got to the farthest part of our place from the house (which always seems to happen to most of us), then she died again and wouldn"t restart. Being stymied I called a local mechanic. In five minutes he had the problem solved: he took the gas line off the sediment bulb and there was only a trickle of gas even though I had just filled up. He took off the sediment bulb and blew compressed air from his portable tank and the flow was like the cow on a flat rock , fired her up, she ran perfectly and I haven"t had a problem since> He told me that a lot of M"s in his experience had this same problem if the tractor had set for a long period of time like over winter. Any sediment in the tank would settle on the filter screen IN THE TANK, then harden and cut the flow from the tank. The problem might happen again in time but at least I now know what the problem is and can blow the tank before I need the tractor in the spring. I know this has been a windy story but thought others might have the same problem in time. Thanks to those who offered suggestions but now I"m back in business.

Pat

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TX656

08-03-2007 19:27:20




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
Pappy, where did you get that screen?



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Pappy

08-05-2007 11:27:03




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to TX656, 08-03-2007 19:27:20  
TX656----The screen is stainless steel. You can buy brass screen at some hardware companies, but it is expensive. You can go to the kitchen, steal your wifes skillet spatter guard, cut it into 2 3/4" squares and roll it up on a dowell to fit the brass fitting. I bought one at Wal-Mart. Chekc to see if it is stainless steel before you use it.



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Pappy

08-02-2007 19:12:14




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
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This is how I solved my clogging problems.



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Bus Driver

08-02-2007 14:44:50




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
Blowing back like that has potential problems. It might blow gas out of the tank and all over the tractor. Don't do it inside or near a building! Don't crank the tractor until the exterior has evaporated dry!. And the debris is still in the tank, just temporarily moved to another spot.



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Sid

08-02-2007 12:57:18




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
Years ago many of the tractor manufactures would put instruction on the fuel cap or on a decal near the cap. I have found over the years those instructions are very helpful in preventing these types of problems. "Buy clean fuel and keep it clean".



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Aaron Ford

08-02-2007 10:53:33




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
Know a fella who had this problem, and he tried to solve it like you, but he forgot to remove the cap. Tank now holds several more gallons than it did....

Aaron



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CWL

08-02-2007 09:33:12




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
I had the same thing happen to me last summer on my WD Allis. A little bit of compressed air blown back into the tank fixed me right up as well.



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RustyFarmall

08-02-2007 07:16:49




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to Pat H., 08-02-2007 06:18:36  
If you don't want to encounter that problem again, Remove the sediment bowl assembly and insert a riser pipe into the inlet of the bowl. You want the pipe to extend at least 1/2" above the bottom of the tank, and it won't hurt to affix a fine mesh stainless or brass filter screen to the riser pipe. Granted there will be about 1/2" of gasoline in the bottom of the tank that you cannot use, but that is a small price to pay to ensure that the tractor keeps right on running.

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VADAVE

08-02-2007 08:39:28




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 Re: Found the problem in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-02-2007 07:16:49  
You could also take the tank off and clean it.



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