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Kestrel in CT

07-26-2007 12:17:03




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Just wondering if any of you "more senior" guys out there can identify the 2nd implement in these photos, excluding the tractor ?

This 200 acre farm, my neighbor's, dates from 1756, and is still going, not strong- but alive and kicking. Dairy cows left in the '60's and now down to just corn and hay. It takes a real stubborn New England swamp Yankee to keep this going; real estate developers be damned here.

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monomechanical

07-26-2007 15:57:44




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 trick questions not fair in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
A grindstone is a tool, not an implement. Just as a Kestrel is a hawk and not a vulture. Of course, if you attach an elbow gear to the grind stone shaft and run it off your pto, it becomes an implement. Or if you use a horse to power the grindstone, I suppose it is then an implement. But the grindstone in the photo has never been run by a tractor or a horse. So, I missed the question for reasons of imprecise semantic distinctions. (No I am NOT OBSESSIVE)

P.S. If you attach a kestrel to a grind stone, and make him run it for a few days, does it become an implement? Or does he become a tool?

(just kidding, of course.)

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kestrel in CT

07-26-2007 16:58:09




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 Re: trick questions not fair in reply to monomechanical, 07-26-2007 15:57:44  
Hi Mono. Thanks for the tutorial but the World Dictionary gives me this definition.

"implement, noun, verb.
noun 1a. a useful piece of equipment; tool; instrument; utensil. Plows and threshing machines are farm implements. A pail, an ax, a shovel, and a broom are implements."

Besides, it's not a grindstone. It's a millstone-two different animals entirely.

Kestrels (sparrow hawk)....I know all about them. Had one for a while until its wing healed. Even named my boat after one.

Anyway, glad to see someone else has nothing to do today also. Ha.Ha...

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JOHN HARMON

07-26-2007 15:33:25




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
The Rake was called a Buck Rake in my Dads lifetime. I never saw one operated as the side Delivery Rake and Tractors with Balers obsoleted it. The Millstone is something that was not very noted in the part of ILL where I came from. The Case VAC Widefront looks as my Row Crop VAC did when I owned it. I traded it on a AC D15 w/Loader and never looked back because if I did I would cry because I really liked the little Case.

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supera3

07-26-2007 12:48:27




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
OK I see it on the grindstone metal, danged if I know!



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Kestrel in CT

07-26-2007 13:07:28




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to supera3, 07-26-2007 12:48:27  
Good eyes ! You last two guys got it. It's an old millstone on top of the large stone next to the right gate post, slowly being worn down by lichens and the elements.

The shaft hole is still intact.

"Millstones come in pairs. The base or bedstone is stationary. Above the bedstone is the turning runner stone which actually does the grinding. When they are laid face to face the patterns mesh in a kind of "scissoring" motion creating the cutting or grinding function of the stones." Wilkipedia definition.

I'll have to ask the farmer if he knows more about it. I certainly don't.

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BillD1

07-26-2007 12:40:16




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
I see a dump rake and the round stone in the fence row may be a millstone as it appears to have a hole in the center A lot of the millstones came from England or France as sailing ship ballast



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Dick L

07-26-2007 12:40:00




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
Are you meaning the VAC Case wide front?



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supera3

07-26-2007 12:36:41




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
Is this a trick question?



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Sandy

07-26-2007 12:29:34




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
Yep, it"s a dump rake...also called a sulky rake by some. I recently sold an International version. Check the wheel hubs for IH or JD. The biggest use they get these days is as lawn ornaments. Restaurant bought mine.



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RustyFarmall

07-26-2007 12:23:24




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
It's a hay rake. Often called a "dump" rake.



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Kestrel in CT

07-26-2007 12:28:13




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-26-2007 12:23:24  
I didn't mean the rake. We all know that. Something else there.



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RustyFarmall

07-26-2007 14:30:53




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:28:13  
Sorry, I still don't see anything other than a tractor and a dump rake. You did say the second implement in the photo. I assumed the first implement was the tractor.



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Jim.UT

07-26-2007 12:36:40




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:28:13  
Sorry, all I see is a dump rake and a Case tractor. Where are we supposed to look?



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Leon R

07-26-2007 12:36:38




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:28:13  
OK you are going to have to give us a little better picture of the 2nd implement. Can't seem to see it those pictures unless I am not looking hard enough.



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Mike M

07-26-2007 12:35:59




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:28:13  
Besides that grinding stone ?



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Brian in NY

07-26-2007 12:35:14




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:28:13  
Well, I've looked carefully, and there is not
another implement other than the tractor and the rake there that I can see.



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dhermesc

07-26-2007 12:22:31




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 Re: Name that Implement in reply to Kestrel in CT, 07-26-2007 12:17:03  
Far from "senior, but its a dump rake.



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