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OT: 80x110 pole barn

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doug in illinoi

07-14-2007 16:10:43




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Would a pole barn this big all fit on one semi flatbed trailer once disassembled? I know the main trusses are 40 ft, so the side trusses would be 20 ft, plus the poles, doors, and tin. It is just over 400 miles from me. Any rough idea what the going rate is for hauling? Thanks




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caterpillar guy

07-15-2007 13:14:40




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 16:10:43  
Why can't you use your truck ? Your not for hire, just hauling your own product and it is an ag building just have a bill of sale and do it.the bill of sale is just to prove it's your building on the truck.



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doug in illinois

07-15-2007 14:42:19




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to caterpillar guy, 07-15-2007 13:14:40  
The 40 ft trusses would require a semi, my flatbed is only 24 ft. Also, the 3 axles under the flatbed put me over the 26k where fuel permits, etc apply even though not licensed that heavy.In state is exempt, once I cross state line becomes interstate commerce and all DOT regs apply. Technically, the same issues exist with the livestock trailer as it is also 3 axle, but the farm plate issue is what got me caught in Keokuk IA just 30 miles west of me when I was hauling hay. Got a good talking to by the DOT officer. I probably messed up if they run me thru the national registry as I did go ahead and get a DOT number. Never followed thru on fully activating it, but if that info shows will make it harder to plead ignorance. Before I leave with even the livestock trailer I will fix the safety chains and breakaway coupler, already have 3 new breakaway kits I just need to take time to install on one trailer and replace on the other 2. The gooseneck flatbed never had either chains or breakaway, but has good brakes on all 3 axles and all lights work. Brought my 16 ft bumper pull homemade, IE Iowa State University built, flatbed out of retirement so I can haul lighter and smaller loads with it, but am now getting off the subject of this post.

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caterpillar guy

07-15-2007 13:14:36




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 16:10:43  
Why can't you use your truck ? Your not for hire, just hauling your own product and it is an ag building just have a bill of sale and do it.the bill of sale is just to prove it's your building on the truck.



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D-C-741

07-14-2007 22:41:29




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 16:10:43  
you have a good idea !But must be Free !You are in for a Lot of Work,Is It Going to be Worth all the truble???Nothing will fit back the way it was taken apart !!! I know We did This once 40ft-105ft was a total waste of time.Would have been better if we had put the $$$ towards a NEW Building.Good Luck !!!



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glennster

07-14-2007 18:59:02




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 16:10:43  
we moved a 60 x 120 morton. 60 ft trusses took one semi with an overside permit. moved the rest on 30 ft flatbed farm trailers, put the doors on the hayrack. too 2-3 loads of wood and poles, think the tin took two loads. what a job that was!!! i'll never do it again



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Triplerange

07-14-2007 18:08:21




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 16:10:43  
I highly doubt it. Are you taking the trusses apart? They alone will probably be one load if not. Then all the sheet metal and other pieces. A Pole barn that big has a lot of lumber. Are trusses 8'o.c. or 4' o.c.? How bout the posts, usually they are 8'o.c. but can also be 4' o.c. in commercial applications? Then the headers and girts? Maybe 2 or 3 headers for each wall. Girts are probably every 2'. I see 2-4 trips as possible.

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wayne2

07-14-2007 21:22:00




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to Triplerange, 07-14-2007 18:08:21  
i have a 300 case round nose-call her grandma!!! wayne



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doug in illinois

07-14-2007 18:52:30




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to Triplerange, 07-14-2007 18:08:21  
You asked a lot of good questions. I am trying to get more info, I do know that I can't haul any of it it on my trailer, I am farm plated on the flatbed. 150 mile limit, no out of state. I may be able to haul tin, poles, disassembled doors in my 24 ft livestock trailer which is commercial plated. The barn has 15 ft sidewalls, so know the shortest of the poles sawed off will be 15 ft. Planning to use the poles from the center towards the outside and getting "new" poles for the center. They are in concrete, so would just chain saw them off. If I made a couple or three trips with this trailer, do you think the trusses would all go on one big rig? Thanks

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steve n carol

07-14-2007 22:21:55




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 about the poles in reply to doug in illinois, 07-14-2007 18:52:30  
Being that the poles will be the last to remove, have you thought about "pulling" them, and busting the concrete off. No dought you will have some sort of loader or fork lift available. I think I would give that a try before buying new center posts. Also, perhaps after all of the rest of the barn is gone, you will get some rain to soften the ground around the poles...sl



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Bill in NorthCentral PA

07-15-2007 05:22:30




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 Re: about the poles in reply to steve n carol, 07-14-2007 22:21:55  
Some prefab buildings use a precast concrete footing, held on with a rebar strap. You might be able to cut the rebar and pull?

Bill



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steve n carol

07-15-2007 07:30:45




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 Re: about the poles in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 07-15-2007 05:22:30  
just another thought, Its been my experience that when the wood gets wet and expands, the concrete kinda falls off...sl

does the 'pre fab' post have the rebar going through the post?



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wayne2

07-14-2007 18:46:08




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 Re: OT: 80x110 pole barn in reply to Triplerange, 07-14-2007 18:08:21  
Excellent set of questions-in a couple years (like mine)won't be big enough!!!!! wayne



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