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Tractor acts starved for gas

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Jim D.

07-12-2007 15:02:40




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I need help with a problem with my Super M. I use it a lot and keep it in good shape but all of a sudden it acts starved for gas. It will run for several minutes just fine then dies acting like I had run out of fuel but I just filled the tank after lunch today and after running fine this morning with no trouble at all it developed this problem. If I let it set for a few minutes it will start right up and I can move it, sometimes several feet (trying to get back to the tool shed) then will die and the process starts all over again. I took the fuel line off and blew it out with the compressor and it was clear and open, I cleaned the sediment bulb (which by the way filled right up when I turned the shutoff valve on again)put everything back together, mowed weeds for about half an hour and thought everything was fine as it ran fine under load. I finally got back to the shed, let it run at fast idle and it ran fine. Any ideas what is going on here? One thought: if after it started having trouble and I was trying to get back to fix it, if I went up any incline it would die, then start right up, run a few feet and die. Could the float possibly be bad in the carburetor or ???? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Deere Farmall

07-13-2007 04:26:41




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
At the place where the fuel line enters the carberator there is, what appears to be, a reducer fitting. That fitting has a screen on the inside. Remove the fitting and check that screen for dirt.



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RickL

07-13-2007 02:50:11




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
you are not vapor locking are you. had unit that use to do that



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flying belgian

07-12-2007 18:26:30




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
Went through the same thing with the 706. After cleaning sed. bowl 10 times, blowing out line, cleaning carb, blowing backup into tank, new points, plugs, wires and coil it turned out to be a dead fly in the gas tank that would get sucked into line untill I shut it off and added fuel which would stir it out for awhile.



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Jerry/MT

07-12-2007 17:55:57




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
It sounds to me like you had something in your fuel line/sediment bowl restricting the fuel flow to the carb that you blew out/cleaned out. You said it ran fine after that.

I'm not familiar with the specifics of your ignition system but to quickly check the spark after the engine dies, remove the center wire from the distributor cap, turn on the key and try a start while holding the wire near a good ground. (It make take two people to do this.) You should see a FAT,BLUISH-WHITE SPARK FROM THE WIRE. If you do, your ignition is not the problem. If you don't then check out the primary ignition cicuit.
Does your carb have a drain plug on the fuel bowl? If it does, open the tank valve and hold a container under the carb and remove the plug The gas should STEADILY gush out LIKE A COW PEEIN' ON A FLAT ROCK for as long as the plug is open and there is fuel in the tank. Do that for 45-60 seconds. If the flow just dribbles or is intermittent then there is a resriction in the fuel delivery. You blew out the gas line but does your sediment bowl have a filter or screen in it? (What did you find when you cleaned out the sediment bowl?)What about the fuel elbow in the carb? A lot of them have a screen in them. You could have a restricted float valve or a flow bowl full of crap and corruption that's not letting the float drop. You float might be damged or the pin could be badly worn. Make sure the vent on the fuel tank is open.

Hope this helps you.

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bobt

07-12-2007 17:49:56




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
Last summer i ran my 560 out of gas! Filled it up,and it would run great,then acted like it was starved for fuel,it suck some junk from the bottom of the tank,into the seniment bulb. Clean it out and soon it was running fine. Did you run it empty?? Just a thought!



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Allan In NE

07-12-2007 15:12:10




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Jim D., 07-12-2007 15:02:40  
Just went thru the same thing on a little tractor of mine. Fought "fuel problem" for better than a week and could find nothing wrong.

Check your coil. I'd swap it out for a known good one.

Allan



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KEH

07-12-2007 16:16:59




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 Re: Tractor acts starved for gas in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2007 15:12:10  

Coil is a good easy first step. If that dosen't work, some other problems I have had with gas engines. (not an M, though, maybe someday):

Points and condensor,assuming the M has those.

Might try running it at night, when it dies, see if you are getting a bright steady spark.

Bad switch is a possibility, but it dosen't sound like it.

If you eliminate ignition problems, you will have to start on the carburator. I don't know enough to advise on that, but I would run it untill it has problems, then disconnect the fuel line at carburator to see if you have a strong flow, being careful around a hot engine. Good luck.

KEH

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