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TMay

07-06-2007 18:13:26

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I have been reading about all the things one can put in the rear tires instead of calcium. I was thinking of putting washer fluid in mine and was wondering how you guys did it. I don't know if the local tire guys would pump it in or not. Was wondering if you all had your own pumps? Any help is good thanks.

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NEsota

07-07-2007 08:45:02

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

Iowa_Tire_Guy, This is a good time to tell you that your posts have been very helpful to me. Seems like the tendency is to not learn much about the rubber until we have a problem and have to have the info. It is great to get comments before that,from a pro. Thanks.

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steelfronts

07-07-2007 06:22:04

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

We just use water on the tractors we dont run in the winter cause we're cheap. Didnt drain a couple last winter with no adverse effect. The every day tractors have cloride

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buickanddeere

07-07-2007 05:46:37

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

It good planning and general common sense? To eliminate a potential problem instead of planing on how to live with a potential problem for 40 years? Beet juice or windshield washer fluid is not going to sneak up and bite you in the future. Salt water around metal and paint will.

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bluepaint

07-06-2007 21:46:55

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

Some people i;ve heard use beet juice? Calcium chloride is the norm here but is not so innocent small tyre dealers wont touch it (environmental issues) even large dealers do work over pits with bunded tanks .

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old

07-06-2007 19:57:00

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

Drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a page from a 1935 owners manaul that explians 2 or 3 ways of putting fluid into a tire. One of them is so easy that after you set it up and can walk away from it and it will do it as you sleep or what ever else you feel like doing. I use wiper fluid in my tires, but you need to make sure its winter type not the summer stuff since the summer stuff will freeze

Hobby farm

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iowa_tire_guy

07-06-2007 19:31:16

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

You can use water in your tires even in the north if you don't use the tractor in the winter and you drain it in the fall. And you can put it in with the garden hose yourself. Milton makes an adapter that threads on a garden hose and onto the air/liquid valve stem. Or you can just adapt it down to a half inch hose that slips over the stem and holds on with a hose clamp. Jack up the tractor with the valve stem up, take out the inner stem and let the air out. Hook up the hose and fill it up. When the water quits running it will be some overfull so just let out to the level of the stem. In the fall you put the valve stem down near an air compressor, and take the inner stem out and watch it fly. What is left in the tire won't be enough to cause damage if the tractor doesn't run in the winter. And that is cheaper than washer fluid.

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Earl-IL

07-06-2007 19:07:38

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

I just got 96 gal to put in my 35 "A" Deere. I asked on here a couple of weeks ago and several reply they have had WW fluid in their tires for 10 yr.I ordered a fill valve from WWWGempler.I am going to use a small pump & pump it in next week. I got 16-6 gal cases at .98 a gal

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paul

07-06-2007 19:00:07

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

You must live pretty far south? Up here in MN you'd go broke doing that.

CC would be my choice....

--->Paul

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wolfman

07-06-2007 18:23:15

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to TMay, 07-06-2007 18:13:26

Calcium Cloride, which is basically just salt, is probably the safest for the envoirnment should some get spilled. So what if you have to replace a $2 valve core every 10 years to avoid a rusty rim.

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Duke Hanson

07-06-2007 19:05:25

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to wolfman, 07-06-2007 18:23:15

Calcium Cloride is not that environmentally friendly, ask the guys that work with it also ask the EPA. You need to check out Rim Guard or Beat Juice for short.

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Don-wi

07-06-2007 22:14:23

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to Duke Hanson, 07-06-2007 19:05:25

I'm sure in massive quantities it isn't very good, but what is?

If you happen to have a leak, it's not going to be like a major oil spill where the DNR will have to dig it out if they happen to catch wind of it.

I'm sure the ground at the tire guy's yard where they have the big holding tanks though is plenty full of it that nothing will grow.... but it probably owuld start to trun green again after a year or 2 of rain and it got diluted down some.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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sd pete

07-06-2007 19:20:51

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to Duke Hanson, 07-06-2007 19:05:25

We have used cal. chloride on this farm since rubber tires were put on tractors. And the crops and livestock are all doing ok.

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georgeky

07-07-2007 07:22:20

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to sd pete, 07-06-2007 19:20:51

I had a leaky valve on a C Farmall that I pulled out of the barn to house tobacco and the cows went crazy for the fluid. They even pulled the valve stem out of the tube and licked on it for a week. That was 7 years ago and I still have some of the cows. Didn't hurt any of them that I could tell.

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IaGary

07-06-2007 19:51:59

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to sd pete, 07-06-2007 19:20:51

I agree with sd pete.

Just last year we took the tires off of a 856 that was bought new in 69 and put on different tires.

It was filled with calcium the day after it was brought home.

Lets see thats 38 years and the rims are not rusted out yet.

I bet they will rust out in another 17 years and they would have without calcium also.

If you get a leak fix it and calcium will work just fine.

It has worked since the 50's and now in the last 5 years everyone is afraid of it.

I will continue to use calcium thank you.

This tractor here had calcium since 61 with the original rims.

To bad it burnt or maybe it would have made another 40 years on the original rims.

I have replaced more front rims that have never had calcium than rears with calcium.

Ok I'll get off my soap box. Just tired of listening to calcium is junk.

Gary

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sd pete

07-07-2007 06:25:28

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to IaGary, 07-06-2007 19:51:59

Of all the tractors that have been around here i cant remember having to buy a rear rim. But I have bought a few front rims and they never had fluid in them.

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gene bender

07-07-2007 03:27:32

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to IaGary, 07-06-2007 19:51:59

You are correct GARY. If the tire leaks you fix it and if it dont leak there will be no damage to the rim.

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vitzarus

07-06-2007 20:23:13

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Re: Water in tires. in reply to IaGary, 07-06-2007 19:51:59

Gary. You just get up on a soap box any old time.I understand Iowa is flat beautiful. Some of my people traveled over there recently and just loved Iowa.It could be Gary that cc dry is not so bad but over time if another puts water into it-well you know.

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