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O/T computor problem

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37chief

05-26-2007 14:32:32




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My computor will just shut off, and try to restart by it's self. Sometimes I have to restart manually. It happens sometimes right after initial start up, sometimes it will shutdown after a 1/2 of use.My computor is probably 5 years old. Any suggestions. Stan




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VernMI

05-27-2007 08:41:20




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37chief, 05-26-2007 14:32:32  
Could be that the processor has worked it way out of the slot. I had that happen on one where the older style AMD above board processor was not locked in properly.

It could be some of the capacitors have started to short internally and are overheating and causing the problem over time of use. Look for bulging end caps on the end mounted motherboard electrolytics. You might even see some oozing material. I have seen theses capacitors go bad inside the power supply also. Open the power supply and look for darkened spots on the PC board indicating that the attached components are over heating. A supplier made a bunch of electrolytics about 5-6 years ago with a new water based dielectric film and it caused corrosion which led to overheating and corrosion.

Like others have said the fans must be working properly and should not be all covered with lint and dust.

Every once in a while the software becomes corrupted and needs to be reinstalled on a completely reformatted drive.

Save any important files that you have on the hard drive in the system before you start your diagnostics and repair.

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Mark - IN.

05-26-2007 19:58:10




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37chief, 05-26-2007 14:32:32  
Shut down like power shut down? Or blue screen of death with some codes just before it shuts down? If its power, then I'm guessing at power supply. If its blue screen of death, then down, use your Windows CD to repair it. If you can, save as much of your personal documents to some other medium, like CD, thumb drive, etc, because if you try to repair it with your Windows CD, might end up formating the drive and re-installing against your will. Could have a virus too.

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Howard H.

05-26-2007 17:47:21




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37chief, 05-26-2007 14:32:32  

What version of Windows do you have?

The blaster virus on an unpatched Windows 2000 or XP will do that.

Do you get an error message before it shuts down? Does it shut down while you are working on it - or only after you leave it alone for a while?

The "go-to-sleep" options never have worked very well on any version of Windows...

Howard



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37 chief

05-26-2007 19:32:14




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to Howard H., 05-26-2007 17:47:21  
I have windows XP. There was a message a while back, but couldn't understand what it said. It will just shut down while I am working on it. It tries to restart about theree times then shuts off for about 5 min. Fan is new, and was recently cleaned. Stan



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Howard H.

05-26-2007 19:53:02




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37 chief, 05-26-2007 19:32:14  

If it does it while you're working on it, all the power management stuff is out as an option.


Can you tell if the fan on the CPU is turning?

I'm guessing there is a fan mounted right on the CPU on the board and that it has quit. When it gets too hot, it shuts down.

Have you looked inside the system unit in a while? (the box part) Is it really dusty inside?

I was working on a PC the other day that was very dusty inside, the dust ate the fan bearing out that was mounted right on the CPU, and when it quit turning, the CPU would heat up hot enough to leave a brand on your finger. At that point, it was shutting down. The fan had actually partly melted onto the CPU socket.

Howard

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Curt from MN

05-26-2007 15:35:31




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37chief, 05-26-2007 14:32:32  
Have you added any new programs lately? My problems started after removing Norton and installing System Mechanic as my Anti-virus/disc utility program. Ended up wiping my hard drive clean and reinstalling the XP system. Then there are the hours it takes to re-update the system. If you don't have the time or knowledge to do this, find a repair shop close by and let them do the work. May cost $20-40 per hour or somewhere around $30 for them to do the reload. Or they can tell you what the real problem is and if it is worth fixing. The 2 biggest killers of PC's are dust and heat. Followed closely by power surges. Note that these are killers and not just disablers. Viruses can be removed but damage caused by heat, dust and power surges require replacement of parts rather than software. Some computer shops will use your old hard drive and any other usable parts to build you a new computer. Biggest cost of a new computer is the software not the hardware. Since you already have the software why not use it?

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Janicholson Visiting LA

05-26-2007 14:54:17




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to 37chief, 05-26-2007 14:32:32  
Four main things do that to a computer.
A faulty powercord/plug/or plugged in poorly.
A powersupply that is on its way out.
an install of the operating system that has bad/corrupt files.
A virus/worm.
If its power light goes out,then comes back on the first may be the problem.
Check the plug to wall connection, if needing better contact, there it is.
If an error message comes up it may be the last item. Re install the operating system from disks. (after backing up all files you need to keep)
If it is a power supply issue, they can be very inexpensive to replace, they are kinda universal to a mother board series, and common. I hope I helped. JimN
Replace the cord, they are give away items.

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Bob

05-26-2007 14:58:27




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 Re: O/T computor problem in reply to Janicholson Visiting LA, 05-26-2007 14:54:17  
Also could be a failed power supply fan or CPU cooling fan.



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