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SA-PA

05-26-2007 06:28:01




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All,

We are moving to a house in the country w/ 10 acres where we can have our 2 horses with us. What tractor size/implements would folks suggest. Not looking for particular mfg/models - just general tips. FYI, a neighbor has an Farmall 140 w/ belly mower and snow plow for around $3K... would this be something that one could build on.?
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SA




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Mark - IN.

05-26-2007 19:50:14




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
Judging by most of the posts, it pretty much sounds to me like that 140 is pretty much what the doctor ordered, and its local. Probably a good deal if its in good shape for $3K. After I posted, went to tractordata dot com, and that 140 tips the scales at 3K pounds, is about 17 HP. Doesn't sound bad at all for 10 acres, but guess it all depends on what he plans to do with it on those 10 acres. Like everything else, has its limitations, and sometimes has to be compromises as well. Probably a good tractor for the job, just guessing at the job though.

I hate the thought of him or anyone else running down to the dealer and leaving with the keys to something new and expensive, with payments that he didn't want or need on something that he didn't want or need either, and then hating himself for it later. Can always sell that 140, or Jubilee, or TO, or... later if he doesn't like it. Someone will always buy old iron and fix 'er up into their working tractor that is PAID FOR and willing to work.

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Paul from MI

05-26-2007 13:04:46




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
Farmall 140 is a great little tractor and parts are not too hard to find. No matter what you get, new or old you"ll need parts sometime, so it"s an important thing. Should be fine if all you are going to do is mow the 10 acres and putz around with a garden. It you plan on making hay it"s a little too small. Won"t do very well on a baler unlees you make the windrows pretty small and drop the bales on the ground. You"ll need something a little bigger to pull a wagon behind the baler. I am talking about small square bales, no big round ones at all. It won"t run any size haybine, but will do ok with a 7ft. sickle bar mower. You probably are making grass hay for your horses so crimping it isn"t too important. Here in MI it"s pretty hard to get alfalfa hay made without getting rained on if you don"t use a haybine. Takes too long to dry.

If you plan on farming the 10 acres get something bigger. Plowing with a one bottom plow is an enjoyable way to spend some time, but if you can only do 1/2 acre an hour at best. It is too small for even the old pull type combines or a one row corn picker.

I would look for something a little bigger if it was me, but that is why I have 5 tractors for 12 acres. Could do it all with one, but where is the fun in that? Just my two cents.
Paul

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ford4roy

05-26-2007 12:21:49




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 Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
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I too just bought 10.5 acres located in Texas. I am 6'6" so I decided to go with an older but bigger tractor - a Ford 4000. Then I purchase a 6ft shredder and am VERY pleased with the performance of the entire setup. I had just one (actually twice) incident where I didnt realize how the left and right rear brakes are used for assisting in power turns. I ended up putting my tractor in the private lake and the more I struggled to get it out, the deeper I became. Anyway, that and the subsequent story were quickly remedied when my neighbor(s) came down with their 4X4 truck and tractor and chains to help me FISH mine out of the water. In any case, Ive learned the value in practicing on my tractor first, then selecting the right implements to mow with.....

Im going to buy one of those cutters that works off of the pto and looks like giant hedge clippers to cut along the edge of the lake and not risk dumping my tractor into the water again..... ....

what do you think? Am I on the right track?

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KEH

05-26-2007 15:16:47




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to ford4roy, 05-26-2007 12:21:49  
Ford4roy,

you are talking about a sickle bar mower and yes, you are on the right track. For an older model a MF 41 is good.

KEH



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Curt from MN

05-26-2007 11:49:12




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
I use my IHC straight H to put out round bales for my horses. Won't even try to pickup the bales. Just push them where I want them and then use the loader to lift the feeder over the bale. Sometimes during the winter I may need to take a couple runs at the bale to get it moved. Should get better chains for the tires.



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georgeky

05-26-2007 08:23:01




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
Yes a 140 is a good tractor for a 10 acre spread or even more. There are lots of implements for them. If you plan to raise a garden you can get cultivator,plow, disk,fertilize distibuter planters and so on. It will also pull a small bushhog. There are even front end loaders for them. I have even pulled a square baler with one a couple of times. Every part of them can be bought new at CaseIH. There easy on gas and easy to work on. If you get it and need help or ideas just post here or on the Farmall board. If Hugh isn't asleep he can give lots of good info on these. They are wonderful little tractors.

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caterpillar guy

05-26-2007 07:50:00




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
Yup will work for a lawn mower but thats the limit now you'll have to buy all the feed for the horses since it will take all the rest for pasture and could push the mower for no more than will be left after fencing the pastures and that will require lots of hand work rolling out the wire setting the posts and some good corner posts cheaper to get rid of the horses and stay in town till you've got forty or more acres.

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Mark - IN.

05-26-2007 07:13:56




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to SA-PA, 05-26-2007 06:28:01  
Well...I"m not familiar with a 140, so went and looked at the pictures, and now know what a 140 looks like. Appears to be about the size of the AC-B that I mow with. You have a piece of property that will get you a couple few acres for hosre pastures, which you"ll need for your horses. I"m guessing that 140 will do anything else beyond that that you"ll need it for. But, I"m not thinking that it"ll handle a loader for the round bales that I"m guessing you"ll be putting out for your horses? Clearly you won"t be needing something real big, but you"re going to need some weight for that, and a loader for a spear...assuming that you"ll be dealing with round bales. $3K for that 140 if its in good shape? Probably not bad. Can run down to Home Depot and price the newest lawn/garden tractors made by MTD with everyone"s favorite color and logo on them for double that, and only last 5 years before rust or fall apart...just mowing the lawn, which is all that they can do anyway.

What are your neighbors using? I"m referring to brands? Parts availability and serviceability are key factors. I"m guessing you might have an Case/IH dealer in the area...the 140. Who"s your dealer? And don"t be letting your dealer be talking you into the newest latest greatest compact on the market that will require a second mortgage that you don"t want or need. Who"s your dealer? What your neighbors are using might be a good indication. Of course, them old tractors run forever and ever, even if the dealer is long gone and out of business, as well as the manufacturer...and can often oreder parts still.

Good luck, enjoy, be safe.

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

05-26-2007 08:38:54




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to Mark - IN., 05-26-2007 07:13:56  
I have 2 tractors for every acre and I have 10 acres also. That way your not changing iools all the time.



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mark

05-26-2007 13:42:57




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 05-26-2007 08:38:54  
I've got a Super A....a 140 in older clothes and it is indeed a dandy little tractor. BUT, changing implements isn't exactly easy or quick. The hydraulics are just a step beyond not having any. I use mine for cultivating and it can't be beat for that job. They are good for raking hay...doesn't take much to pull a rake. But, if you just have one tractor and want to get several things done....I'd strongly suggest something with a 3 point hitch, so you can change implements easily.

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georgeky

05-26-2007 14:50:53




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 Re: Newbie questions... in reply to mark, 05-26-2007 13:42:57  
If the 140 has a fast hitch it doesn't get any easier to change implements.



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