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glennster

05-21-2007 07:48:50

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whelp, mowing with the cub saturday, ran over a hidden beer bottle in the ditch, flat tire. got the chloride pumped out. here is how i break the bead with a handyman jack and a chain. lot of ways to do it, heres my method. hope it helps somebody

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Davis In SC

05-22-2007 20:40:10

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Bad thing is, the Open Container laws do not keep people from drinking when they drive, Just makes them toss the empties out the window..

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Leland

05-22-2007 12:23:48

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

I must be lucky have ran over thousands of bottles and never had a flat ,but the deer sheds are a different story every year they always find a few in tires

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Mike (WA)

05-22-2007 08:24:17

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Which brings to mind the sad passing of Les Schwab last week, at age 89. He started a string of tire stores from his original location in Prineville, Oregon, in the '50's, and the chain is now 40, or 60, or some such number or stores, in the northwest states. He never forgot his agricultural roots, and they are one of the few left who sell (and service) ag tires. The help comes running out to your car when you pull in, and they all move at about 1.5 normal speed, so you're in and out in a hurry. They put passenger car tires on with an impact wrench set real low, then finish tightening with a torque wrench, so daughter can actually get the lug nuts off if she has a flat. Free flat repair and rotations (of their own tires), good coffee and popcorn in the waiting room, etc. Just a good, customer-service oriented business, that deserves the success it has achieved.

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buickanddeere

05-22-2007 08:00:02

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

While it certainly works..... There is some potential for something to go wrong. The jack's base is unstable, the chain is free to slide, there is no warning when the bead breaks, there is a pile of stored energy in that squashed rubber. And those Jack-Alls never miss a chance to try and fling the handle back up into your face.

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RodInNS

05-21-2007 19:58:51

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Whatever does the trick! But for my own part, I prefer the tire maul. There's not too many that don't give up in less than a minute...

Rod

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37 chief

05-21-2007 17:44:25

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

One of the best tools I purchased was a used tire changer. I have more than paid for the thing. I seam to have more flats from nails, and plant thorns. There is a plant here with thornes about 1 inch long. It is a kind of flower called a bogenvia (spelling?) Looks like you have the tire changing down, Have fun. stan

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TomTX

05-21-2007 15:38:57

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

My brother broke both bones just at his wrist with a jack exactly like that one. He had a 3/4 inch offset in his wrist. Needed steel plates and pins to get it back together. Tom

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JPatton

05-21-2007 20:03:57

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to TomTX, 05-21-2007 15:38:57

TomTX - Yep, I got a scar on my head where 19 stitches were used to stop the blood from falling out. Doc said it must have been a John Deere cause he saw green paint in the hole in my head. He was right. :)

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Brian in NY

05-21-2007 10:46:10

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Yep, done it that way before too, and also with smaller tires in a vice. It can get hairy if you are not careful, but it appears you know what you are doing. In my area, we don't have a friendly tire dealer whatsoever....and tractor shops can't or won't get right to changing a tire since they have bigger fish to fry. So one has to fall back on necessity being the mother of invention sometimes if you need to get rolling again quickly.

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Walt Davies

05-21-2007 10:15:21

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

I got a much better way the local tire dealer here will fix flats for free if you are a regular customer. Saves me a lot.
Walt

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Billy NY

05-21-2007 11:17:44

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to Walt Davies, 05-21-2007 10:15:21

Walt, that must be a nice place to do business with, well deserving of a nice tip too, don't find em like that around here.

I've got this annoying leak at the valve stem and it aint the guts, somewhere around the base, will have to deal with it.

Oh, and it's my darned fault, brand new rim, tire, tube, and Ca Cl. Younger guy did the work, he's from farm country too, worked for a local branch of a tire outfit, branch now closed, said it will stop, never did, time gets away from you, just a slight drip too, but it's scaling rust now, rim probably N/G will see, as I will have to deal with this myself so I can keep the cost to a minimum, dealing with unloading and re-filling the Ca Cl is the only thing that will be a pain, got a copy of a page from one Old's JD literature, thought there was also a coupling you could use in conjunction with compressed air to reload ? Breakin the bead, well sooner or later I'll get it, just that liquid that is annoying.
The guy who did the work, is now employed across the street at the diesel shop, wanted to bust his chops, but that's like disciplining a dog 3 years after he did something wrong ! Live and learn I suppose.

Really nice to see posts like pictures are 1000 words

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Walt Davies

05-22-2007 09:28:13

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to Billy NY, 05-21-2007 11:17:44

Billy, Living here in the great NW I have found that a lot of stores will go the long way around to please their customers. Les Schwab Just died at age 90 we will hope his kids keep up the good work that he started.
They are also antique tractor collectors and are alway at all the shows and tractor pulls a nice bunch of people.
Walt

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Billy NY

05-22-2007 10:14:33

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to Walt Davies, 05-22-2007 09:28:13

That is the way it should be, never bothered me to pay someone for a service, but it's the friendly, people orientated ones who take care of the details or will show up to do a job no matter how small, with a smile. If we had an outfit like that here, and I had a flat, not only would I be glad to help, they'd have a loyal customer and it would be a pleasure to leave a tip, amazing that they do that for flats.

I think it's wise in certain situations to just have a spare on hand for a tractor, maybe not so for every size in a fleet but for guys like us who have one or a couple, utility sized ones, say just for the one that gets the most use. The big ones are definitely a handful. I did not have much trouble dealing with a 13.6 x 28 loaded tire, just used care, even had to let it flop over once, got away from me, just had to carefully stand er back up and shift er over to the tractor. Another tractor with a loader would be handy as you can hoist and probably break a bead, that jack does have the potential to cause injury, definitely need to use care. With my counter weight on and solid cribbing under the rear axle of my 850 ford, I can still carefully use the loader to lift or even compress on a bead, not for everyone and I'm sure some would balk at doing that, just can't get greedy, take yer time, realizing where the line is.

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05-21-2007 09:33:42

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Simple but very effective.Might try that sometime-thanks.

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James22

05-21-2007 09:25:28

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

I find glass beer bottles in the field adjacent to the road all the time. There is a substantial ditch between the road and the field and it would take a good arm to sling it that far. Obiviously they are trying to cause flat tires, which just as obiviously pi**es me off. We usually walk the field edge by the road before fall or spring work. Walked it this spring before field cultivating and picked up a case of beer bottles. Most often it is Busch Lite. Rain delayed planting about two weeks and didn't walk it again. Were lucky, I found two broken bottles that we had run over and broken when hand spraying RU on the border morning glory.

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glennster

05-21-2007 12:34:38

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to James22, 05-21-2007 09:25:28

i usually run the ditches with the golf cart picking up bottles and junk that gets thrown out before i mow too. this bottle was broke, and sticking up, didnt see it, but the tractor sure found it. i wonder if them bottle tossers would like it if i threw garbage in their yard??? worse yet is when they throw bags of garbage, tires and old furniture and just leave it in the ditch. ya wonder whats wrong with people sometimes.

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old

05-21-2007 08:45:37

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Can be done that way but if it slips it can hurt you bad. My self I'll just stick to my tire hammer and know I'm doing it the same way as the pros do.

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Sean Feeney 2

05-21-2007 08:15:44

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to glennster, 05-21-2007 07:48:50

Thanks for sharing nice photos, I was surprised to hear a bottle would cut that tire must have been a just right angle

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The Preacher

05-21-2007 16:55:01

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Re: changing a tire-photos attached in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 05-21-2007 08:15:44

I just changed the rear tires on my pulling tractor. The old ones had been on the rims for 15+ years. I used a tire hammer, set in on the bead, and hit the other end with a 10 lb. sledge. It worked great! It takes some grunt work, but I don't accidentally give my rim a flat spot.

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