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question on hyd cylinder linkage

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Nebraska Kirk

05-18-2007 21:30:43




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The last few days I have been working on getting this sycle mower that I bought last summer up and running. I know, I know :-) I have been busy and had other projects more pressing. It was originally hand lift but was modified at some point to hydraulic lift. This picture shows how it was hooked up.

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I did not like that setup. The mower has the ability to swing back when it hits an obstruction and with the cylinder hooked up the way it was, I could see the cylinder shaft getting bent if the mower ever hit something and swung back. So I came up with a different linkage system using a one-way cylinder I have. Because of the offset in the linkage, the cylinder wanted to rub on that arm above the center of the cylinder. To prevent this I welded a piece of steel just above the yoke on the left end of the cylinder. My concern is that the linkage is putting a twisting force on the cylinder and will harm it in some way, what are your thoughts?

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Areo

05-19-2007 07:49:33




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 Re: question on hyd cylinder linkage in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 05-18-2007 21:30:43  
Another way would be to have the rear of the cylinder go to a mount that has a horizontal hinge pin. (The mount itself can hinge).That would allow the motion you need to raise and lower the mower. The pin through the end of the cylinder could then allow rotation when the mower breaks away.

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Areo



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BillPa

05-19-2007 17:31:55




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 Re: question on hyd cylinder linkage in reply to Areo, 05-19-2007 07:49:33  

dont you need both cyl. pins vertical? just one pin vertical will still bend something. if it is not on the same hinge plane as the mower when it hits something the mower bar will swing back and also raise some.



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Walt Davies

05-19-2007 12:17:57




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 Re: question on hyd cylinder linkage in reply to Areo, 05-19-2007 07:49:33  
You need to be sure that the pivot pin on the cylinder is directly above the pivot pin on the mower so that they pivot together then I think all will be Ok
Walt



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Janicholson

05-19-2007 07:03:41




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 Re: question on hyd cylinder linkage in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 05-18-2007 21:30:43  
After studying your photos, I see exactly what you mean. The answer is: it will wreck the cylinder in short order. Cylinders are never designed to handle bending moment (side force like breaking a stick over your knee)

Replace the rear mount with a bracket that extends the cylinder farther rearward, so the front can be directly attached to the red front arm, or use a much shorter cylinder.

Hydraulic cylinders should be sized so that they are limited by their own stroke, not the equipment they attach to. If, as pictured, the cylinder can push twice as far as needed, and is not restricted in that direction by its own length, it will bend, or bend something else if you, or another operator, lifts too long on the lever.

A shorter single acting cylinder is a good answer.

It is going to cause problems the way it is, sorry. JimN

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