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Rescued VAC-Stuck Ring?

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JRT

05-01-2007 20:20:40




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I bought a decent looking VAC Case that has been setting outside for 10 or 12 years. After finally getting fire and much cleaning of the fuel tank and carburator, I finally got it started. Sounds pretty good except no compression on the 2nd cylinder. It did not smoke at all. The motor was not stuck but I think maybe the ring is stuck. Would it be possible to let it soak in something like Marvel Mystery oil for about 2 months and possibly free it up or might I just go ahead and tear into it. Thought it might be worth a shot. Anyone had any luck with this?

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RAB

05-01-2007 23:25:03




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 Re: Rescued VAC-Stuck Ring? in reply to JRT, 05-01-2007 20:20:40  
JRT,
You wrote: I think maybe the ring is stuck

I ask: how much is no compression?
Have you carried out a compression test - both dry and wet? Until you do we have litle in the way of hard facts to go on. If there is no compression at all it could be a hole in the piston. It should not sound too good either. All these things are very subjective - no hard facts/information, so you need to find out as much as you can before deciding on the most likely route for repair.

Personally, as it will have about 4 rings on each piston I doubt you have seen inside an engine? (as you say "the ring is"). No problem - everyone has to start somewhere, but understanding the basics is easily found in a book.

When an engine sits an exhaust valve will always be open and like as not this may not be sealing correctly after several years. It may be sticking or the head/seat rusted (we don"t know the conditions it has been in for the last several years). It may have a broken valve spring, a burn"t valve (from before it sat), a sticking stem stopping it closing properly, a cam lobe worn out (so too little valve lift), a broken or otherwise valve rocker. The inlet valve may have been open as well and that too may have problems ( a cylinder with just an inlet valve open is usually protected by the oil bath aircleaner).
So upshot of all this is that is is useless soaking it in anything if the fault is a chipped valve or similar, so investigate a little further first.
Hope this helps.
Regards, RAB

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05-01-2007 20:34:09




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 Re: Rescued VAC-Stuck Ring? in reply to JRT, 05-01-2007 20:20:40  
I use tranny fluid to do that all the time, cheaper then MMO and works just as good. I have an Oliver 60 engine that was stuck and used tranny fluid in it a couple times. First was to get it unstuck and the second time was to get the compression up. Went from around 60PSI in each cylinder to around 100 PSI in each after just a couple days of soaking

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