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HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE

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ironsales

05-01-2007 12:29:14

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I was out this past weekend at my mom's doing a little fishing, when i remembered a lot of scrap that was hauled up to our pit a few years back, i was just a youngster when my parents bought a lot next to our house that had a old trailer house on it, i remember my stepfather hireing some high school boys to tear it down, and i still remember the day that he hauled to frame off, well while i was messing aound the pit, i found the old trailer frame, i was wondering if it would be heavy enough to make a good tractor hauler out of, its 54' long and i was going to try and make a 20' and a 34' trailer out of it, no dovetail, beefed up with chnnel iron, heavy axles, the 20' would be a deck over bumper pull, and the 34' would be a deckover goose neck, please tell me if it is worth my time and effort

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Aaron Ford

05-01-2007 17:53:17

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

The Great State of West Virginia has enacted laws against the reuse of trailer frames, more precisely, trailer axles. Seems folks have been cutting them and rewelding them to shorten the total width of the axle. Many failures based on spotty welding, poor design, and overloading. You may have sucess but I suspect your local DMV will have a cow. I had a clear title to a manufactured utility trailer and they acted like I was attempting to license a UFO. Good Luck, but I am also on the scrap side of this discussion. I do not think it would be worth it.

Cheers,

Aaron

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JMS/MN

05-01-2007 17:34:52

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

Trailer house frames are junk! Ten years ago we lived in one for a few months while building a new house. Next year I tipped it (14x70) over with a 46 hp skidloader, lift rating of 1350 lbs. Torched off the frame, thinking it would make a good big bale trailer. C-channel frame twisted when it fell off the bottom of the house. Channel is about 1/8 inch material- no good for a decent trailer.

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RayP(MI)

05-01-2007 17:13:18

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

Years ago I worked in a trailer factory. Trailers went down the assy line crossways, and the cart on the track was relatively narrow - on the order of several feet. They"d start with the frame, put down tarpaper and then the flooring (cheap OSB of the time). Carpeting was put on the bedroom end, livingroom, etc. linoleum on the other floors. Then they"d put the walls up - pre constructed on another workbench. Inevitably there would be a trailer with just frame, flooring, and carpeting waiting when the lunch whistle blew. Some guy would gobble his lunch, and flatten out on the carpet for a short nap. Soon"s he was zzzzz , some other guy would take a flying leap on the far other end of the trailer launching the dozing guy about three feet in the air. Those frames are flimsy, and without the superstructure, you couldn"t even pull them down the road. Your best bet is to salvage the metal, and sell it to the scrap dealer. Thake whatever money you get, and add enough to get a substantial trailer. I can guarantee you somewhere in the trailer"s life someone is going to show poor judgement and far overload it. Disaster waiting to happen.

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georgeky

05-01-2007 16:19:08

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

One more thought. It will never again have anything near as heavy as the house trailer on it. If they will haul that they will haul whatever you may put on it. I have moved several mobile homes and they are a lot hevier than most stuff you will haul.

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TomTX

05-01-2007 16:06:32

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

I realize there are many positive opinions and negative ones on the home-made trailer-house to farm trailer conversions. IMHO don't want one. If I get into a motor vehicle accident and someone loses a life, I want to be able for my lawyer to say "my client bought a factory built trailer, with approved road equipment, good tires, goood brakes, and maintained the trailer in reasonable condition to porvide safe transport." Imagine him trying to say how you dug a rusted trailer frame out the dump and built a home-made trailer. Myself, I will try to save money on something less critical. Tom

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Wisconsin Cowman

05-01-2007 15:48:50

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

I think it would be worth the time. I built two of them and bought one at action a couple of years ago. The one I bought at the action is just little one. Fits about to lawn mowers on it. Use it to pick rocks and for wood just a nice handy trailer. My ones that I built are 3 and 2 axle. The two axle one is little bigger then a car trailer. The 3 axle one is used to haul the tractors and bales off the fields and heavier stuff. Pintle hitch set up like that trailer a lot. Also I but electric brakes in the 3 axle and the 2 axle about 2 years ago makes them a lot better trailers now. Never would I buy a trailer that was built by a manufacture there just junk. A couple other farms I know they bought a skid steer trailer from the local manufacturing places that make farm stuff too. Those both tailors bent when they used them a couple times and also twisted them too. Those home built trailers are the best things out there if they are built right. There is nothing flimsy about them trailers I have. If you decide to build a trailer you can get blue prints form Northern Tool. That is how I built my 2 axle trailer.

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georgeky

05-01-2007 15:40:11

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

I have one I built out of an I beam trailer frame and it works good. I used house trailer axles and the tongue. It did need some bracing between the frame rails as they are a little flimsy. I cut the back end starting at 3 feet from the end and cut from top to bottom and it made a nice dove tail. I haul a 9000 lb tractor all over the place with it, and have had no trouble at all. I bought new 2x oak lumber and used for the floor. All together I have $181.00 in the whole thing.

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old

05-01-2007 13:56:46

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

All depends on the type of frame it has. I've seen 3 types of them and 2 or of the 3 would not work but the other one would. Theres the I-beam type which works well for building frames but not a trailor. Theres a box frame type again to weak for what you want then theres a C channel type and its more the strong enough for what you want. I have an 18 foot trailor made with the C iron type and its heavy enough to haul a small dozer on. It has 3 axles under it and a double frame. I've been thinking about rebuilding it and turning it into a 5th wheel type flat bed and raiseing the bed up so I will have the full 8 foot wide floor

Hobby farm

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Brokenwrench

05-01-2007 13:23:35

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

I agree, but that`s not to say you couldn`t use the axles and steel off the frame to build yourself a handy, around the place type trailer. We have an old trailer built on a trailer house axle, and for wood, brush or whatever, it`s about the handiest thing we have to hook up to. Nothin fancy, but it does have a tilt bed.

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JOHN HARMON

05-01-2007 12:35:41

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to ironsales, 05-01-2007 12:29:14

For get it. Plenty of manufactured Trailers designed to do your requirements for sale if you look around.For on Hiway use you will have to contend with Safety #1, Braking wouild be of prime importance, cost to construct would be more than expected, Title would be a nightmare to obtain and the minus column grows.

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rrlund

05-01-2007 12:40:04

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to JOHN HARMON, 05-01-2007 12:35:41

Any of those trailer frames that I've ever seen are pretty flimsy. I don't think I'd bother either.

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Glenn F.

05-01-2007 13:46:47

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to rrlund, 05-01-2007 12:40:04

I've got one someone built out of a house trailer frame. It is 17+3' long and 6.5' wide. Weighs 3000#....nothing flimsy about that thing!

Glenn F.

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Brown Dirt Cowboy

05-01-2007 14:46:52

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Re: HELP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA OF MINE in reply to Glenn F., 05-01-2007 13:46:47

In 1989 I built a 20' gooseneck using house trailer frame put 3 axles under it and I hauled some big loads on it. Took the mobile home tires off it and replaced them with lowboy tires. I retired this trailer in 2003 when I bought a new 20'+5' Delta gooseneck but if the need arose I would not hesitate to hook onto the old trailer. Tom

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