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2007 Toyota Tundra

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Oliver Power

04-28-2007 04:08:12

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Anyone have any experience with the new Toyota Tundra? Do ya think it would hold up to hauling a 5,000 pound trailer up and down hills every day. Hills that drag my chevey (5.3 engine) down to 20-25MPH. Or , would you go with heavier chevy. Toyota web site calls the tundra 1/2 ton pick-up. Dealer reply claims 2,000 payload capacity. Says actually considered a 1 ton.

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DAN9-Midwest

04-30-2007 18:37:27

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I own both an '06 2WD six cyl auto and an '05 2WD 4-door V8 auto. Both are great. I use the V8 to pull a 5500 lb trailer and 300 lbs of tools in the bed with no problem. Up and down hills and it pulls like a dream. Mileage drops but I am OK with that. It also has a 500? lb cab on it.

Truck works fine for my small towing and is a nice ride. I think a GM would pull better and be more rugged but I wanted a truck with zero problems and the ability to tow my trailer.

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Big Dogs

04-29-2007 05:33:50

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Wait until they come out with the 3/4 ton & 1 ton diesel. They will put Gm, Dodge, & Ford back on the porch with the little dogs.

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04-30-2007 20:43:10

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Big Dogs, 04-29-2007 05:33:50

In your dreams!

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Jonfarmer

04-28-2007 20:35:54

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I haul more than that with my '96 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4, and I got less motor than you!. I got the Vortec 4.3L V6 in my truck. I have hauled up to a 6,000lb tractor on a trailer that has an unladen weight of 2,000lbs, however, that is ALL she wants!, at that weight it strains everything, and I would upgrade my truck if I pulled that much very often, however I only occasionally pull that much on short hauls, so I get by. I got a 3:73 axle ratio in my truck and that really helps, and its a 5spd standard. I have learned though experience that even the base engine has power enough to pull all a half ton can carry and then some, however the big difference is you can't fully load it and go charging down the interstate at 65mph like it has nothing behind it, but if you are not in a big hurry, and you shouldn't be with a big load on, you can get by. If it was me, I think I would take a good hard look at a chevy or GMC 2500HD with the 6.0L in it if you think you really need it, they also got a 8.1L, but I think thats more engine than 90% of the popultion needs. What does you truck have for an axle ratio now?.

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oliver power

04-29-2007 11:01:44

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Jonfarmer, 04-28-2007 20:35:54

I guess I should have also mentioned that my truck carries 7 to 8 ladders on top , as well as a home made 4 x 8 tool box w/tools in the back. And pulling the 5,000 trailer every working day of the week. Although I pull many hills like it , I believe the sign along one of the roads reads 2% grade. Not sure how they figure grade. I do know the hill is very steep. On average roads/hills , the truck does just fine. People , as well as dealers/commercials claim Toyota is THE best truck. They claim dependability , as well as ruggedness. My thoughts are , if I'm going to upgrade , do I upgrade to a heavier chevey? Or should I consider one of these new Tundras. The Tundra may be everything people say it is. That is , if the person is the average working Joe , who thinks they work thier truck once in a while. I'm talking an every day work truck , working for it's keep. Some how the Toyota doesn't strike me as that truck. That's why I posted this question. So far , after reading the replies , things aren't looking good for the Toyota as a true work truck.

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Eric SEI

04-28-2007 20:10:00

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I noticed in one of the ads on TV they claimed that they had asked truck guys what they wanted, and one said he wanted to tow a combine. Later I noticed that part was now missing from the commercial. Do you suppose the FTC pointed out to them that suggesting that their truck could pull a combine was false advertising?

Oh, yeah, it has the biggest honkin bed. How is a honkin bed different from a regular bed? Do you suppose the advertising people are trying to claim the bed is larger than other truck's beds without actually saying it, since that could set them up for a false advertising law suit?

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Oliver Power

04-28-2007 19:50:12

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I stopped at Toyota dealer today. Didn't talk to dealer. Looked at the only new Tundra truck I seen on the lot. Double cab. Leaf springs looked the same as my silverado. Rotors looked quite a lot bigger. In my opinion , they just don't strike me as a rugged truck. I've had chevey , dodge , ford , and international. They all looked more like a truck than the 2007 Toyota Tundra , which was $45,000.00. So far , I think I'll be favoring the 3/4 or 1 ton chevey. Thanks Again for all the replies.

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redlandr

04-28-2007 19:05:13

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I dont care for the looks. They remind me of the old Studebaker pickups.

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Considered a 1 ton ???

04-28-2007 16:21:54

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Should ask that dealer if he lies about other things too. :-)

Lets see, my 1 ton,3500 series Chevy weighs 6200 pounds and has a GVW weight of 12000 pounds, 3 tons in the box, so that makes it a 3 ton truck, right ???

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Greg/Tx

04-28-2007 16:06:58

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I looked at the Tundra at the Austin Live Stock Show & Rodeo last month. I looked at the Crew Cab and the Extened Cab as well as the Regular cab. They had about 20 trucks there. I was not impressed at all with the gauge package. The gauges are recessed in round tunnels. The whole interior looked cheap for such an expensive truck.
I then looked under the hood and let me tell you that if you ever need a tune up you are in trouble. There is very little room between fender wells and engine. It's very hard to get to the spark plugs. The firewall comes up and over the top/rear of the engine. No room to work on the front of the engine with out a lot of work to remove other parts first. The engine is really crammed in there tight. About the ad where the tundra pulls a trailer up that ramp and then down the other side as the ramp tilts down and stops before it runs off into the canyon, and they brag about all the power of the tundra and the biggest brakes of any truck on the market and it stops 10,000 pounds. What they don't tell you is that the trailer also has "Electric Brakes" that helped the the tundra stop before it goes over the edge. That stuff is in the fine print. I have also been reading that there claim to have that trailer loaded with 10,000 pounds may be a false claim. I have a 2000 Silverado Extended Cab
5.3/ 325 cubic inch engine with 342 locking rear end. I have pulled my Massey Ferguson 3165 with front end loader up and down some pretty good size hills with no problem. If your Silverado only goes 20 to 30 mph. something is wrong with it. Take it to the dealer and tell them what problem you are having.
Greg

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Greg/Tx

04-28-2007 15:36:16

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Test

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Ludwig

04-28-2007 15:01:25

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Seems like somethings wrong with your Chevy. My Dodge Dakota has towed closer to 6000# before and not whimpered. It didn't accerate fast but would go as fast as I wanted to push it. My truck has the old iron 5.2l v8.

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georgeky

04-28-2007 09:01:38

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

If you want to pull something stick to American, and keep our money here. I seen one at the tobacco warehouse hooked to a empty 20 foot gooseneck and it was squated down like it had 10,000 lbs on it I don't understand why anyone would by Japanese products when there is another choice. Remember Pearl Harbor. Just my opinion.

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Jim K

04-28-2007 19:00:46

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I agree w/georgeky in reply to georgeky, 04-28-2007 09:01:38

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dhermesc

04-28-2007 14:52:50

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to georgeky, 04-28-2007 09:01:38

The Toyota is made in in America. Good chance the Chevy or Ford in made in Mexico or Canada.

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Mike M

04-28-2007 12:03:56

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to georgeky, 04-28-2007 09:01:38

Take a stroll through your "American" dealers parts room and see where all those parts are coming from !

I think that of cars the Honda has or had the most American made parts in them I read in a car magazine somewhere. They build the engines and assemble the cars here.

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Spook

04-28-2007 17:31:14

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Mike M, 04-28-2007 12:03:56

Of all the Asian carmakers, Honda probably does build more content here than the other Asians. But GM is still the highest USA content of any maker. Around 85% US, the rest mostly Canada and Mexico. GM Powertrain operates 7 engine plants, 4 or 5 transmission plants, and a bunch of foundries in the US. Trucks are assembled in Pontiac, Flint, Janesville Wisconsin, Arlington Texas, Ohio, and I think Louisana, Mexico and Canada also produce trucks. Generally, assembly plants also have stamping plants for sheet metal. All of which is why GM has been hurting - too many expensive US workers.

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Bill(Wis)

04-28-2007 06:46:31

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I paid $21,900 for mine. You can buy a new 2007 Tundra 4WD 5.7 off the lot at CARMAX for $26,238.

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burnetma

04-28-2007 07:20:15

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Bill(Wis), 04-28-2007 06:46:31

Just quoting the MSRP on Toyota.com.

Overall, the specifications are quite impressive. I might even go look at one today just to see in person what they are all about (Rainy day and muddy field activity). Honestly, if I were looking for a half ton to tow < 10,000 lbs, it would be second on my must drive list. I know Toyota is really starting to get serious about winning in the truck market. This truck is proof.

Right now I need at least 14,000 lb trailer capacity and my Powerstroke fits the bill. Best news is it is already paid for so more money for equipment.

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Bill(Wis)

04-28-2007 07:43:52

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to burnetma, 04-28-2007 07:20:15

I hear you. Another good towing truck is the Nissan Titan but I hesitate to recommend it. Consumer Reports lists it as the most unreliable truck on the market. They rate the Tundra as the most reliable. That is based on their owner surveys. I can attest to the Tundra. 70k without a problem although they did give me a recall notice on the lower ball joints.

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burnetma

04-28-2007 06:35:34

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I don"t know. Take the dealer with you on a test drive. Hook it up to the trailer and give it a shot! If the dealer won"t play, then go back to what you know.

A 5000 lb trailer isn"t much weight and with the engine and gearing in the Toyota (5.7L=381 HP, 401 lb-ft, 6 speed automatic, 4.3 ratio rear end), I would bet that it will handle it quite well. With the Crew Max Limited pushing $39k MSRP, you could be looking at a crew cab full ton diesel from one of the Big 3.

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shawnspeed3

04-28-2007 06:14:17

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Why not stick with the Chevy, and upgrade to a 2500 3/4 ton with a 6 liter or a duramax if you haul alot. the 5-year 100,000 mile warrenty was enough to make me buy a Chevy...and even if the Toyota is "Assembled " in America , the profits are still going to a Japanise company.....shawn

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RustyFarmall

04-28-2007 05:16:28

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

Naturally the dealer will make those claims, it's his job to sell it, and the Toyota website is also geared to make the truck look really good. I've also watched the commercial on TV where the truck is pulling that very large container up out the canyon that it almost fell completely into. I'm not saying that it is not possible, but you'll have to admit that it is pretty un-believable. I would not want to attempt such a feat even if using a 200 horsepower tractor. I have to laugh everytime I see that commercial.

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Bill(Wis)

04-28-2007 04:39:57

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

I have a 2006 Tundra 4.6 V8 standard cab 4WD "work truck" that came with the factory tow package which according to the window sticker is:"TO V8 Tow Package: 7100 lbs Max Tow Capacity, Class 4 Hitch, Heavy Duty 130A Alternator, Transmission Oil Cooler & 7 Pin Connector with Converter". You should be able to glean the info you need off from the Toyota website.

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MN Bob

04-28-2007 04:37:58

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Re: 2007 Toyota Tundra in reply to Oliver Power, 04-28-2007 04:08:12

That would depend on how you order the truck. With the heavy duty tow package you get the 5.7 engine, tranny has a tow/haul mode like GM came out with. I have never tried one. I had several Toyota p/u, they were all good. But when I started towing heavyer rigs I went with 3/4 Chev, first the 6. gas, now its the duramax with allison. If the towing is the majority of the use, and hills are really tough then go for a diesel. (just my thoughts) Luck

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