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are the good times really f over for good

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northeast pulle

04-25-2007 06:54:42




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I was listening to Merle Haggard song Are the good times really over. This question is for you old time dairy farmers. I am not old enough to of had this experience but. Was farming and the country better in a slower paced time then today? Do you remember when in say 1949 or 50 when the local dealer delivered your new (insert your favorite brand of tractor) and was service minded after the sale. You milked maybe 30 or 40 cows put in 50 acres of corn had 60 of good hay 5 of oats and new seeding a year. You and your 3 closest neighbors filled silo together with a big noon meal. When you had time in the winter to cut back hedge rows so you could farm the hole field around here anymore no one seems to have time for that and there is more vacant fields so they just farm more ground instead of keeping back the first 10 feet of the field that gets smaller with each passing year. Do you remember switching a surge bucket milker while listing to the ball game on the radio on a hot August night thinking about a dish of ice-cream when you are done with chores or how about when you got your first dumping station or the first one in town to go to a pipe line milker. I worked on farms from the late 70 to mid 80 till I realized I would never start farming at a young ages from scratch . Were you better in the forties and fifties then this fast paced computer and cell phone world of to day. Just wondering North east puller

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barnrat

04-25-2007 14:44:13




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 Re: are the good times really f over for good in reply to northeast puller 1, 04-25-2007 06:54:42  
What your speaking of sounds like mine and my neighbors farms. 20-50 cow dairys, we all are under 40 years old and have worked together when the crop or the weather called for it. When I was 24 years old my wife and I started dairy farming from scratch 7 years ago, bought my father in laws farm 3 years ago her in SW New York. The dealers are good people around here mostly Ma and Pa dealerships that give good service except for the ones asscoiated with Deere or CNH, but they are corporate dealerships. I'm still clearing hedge rows that my Father in law didn't keep up. I ask why are all the old time farmers are so closed minded and think bigger is better. I don't grow corn anymore(it's just not profitable). My cows get most of their feed from rotated pasture in the summer and grass silage and bmr sudangrass in the winter. Small farms are making a come back just wait and see, high corn prices will see to that.

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Mike (WA)

04-25-2007 11:10:46




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 Re: are the good times really f over for good in reply to northeast puller 1, 04-25-2007 06:54:42  
We milked about 35 cows through the fifty's, selling them in about '61, when I was 12. Dad always said that in the '50's and earlier, farming was a way of life rather than a money-making occupation, and because of low taxes and homegrown inputs, ability to grow a garden and eat homegrown meat, and low income expectations, you could have your way of life even tho cash income was pretty pathetic when compared to the folks in town. That changed, and not so gradually, when farmers started wanting a new car every other year, their kids wanted the toys that other kids had, etc. Concurrently, taxes and cost of operation increased dramatically, as well as costs of complying with government requirements. As income per cow goes down, the only solution most can see is more cows; now you can no longer grow enough feed, so you need to make more cash to buy it; the rat race gets faster and faster, and now the "way of life" goal is out the window, because its no longer a swell life, just a work factory. And its happened in so many other segments- the corner grocery and hardware store are gone, and everyone goes to Wally World; Service stations have been replace by gas pumps with credit card readers, and $75 per hour repair shops; and so on down the line. Will it ever be the way it used to be? Nope.

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730virgil

04-25-2007 08:31:53




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 Re: are the good times really f over for good in reply to northeast puller 1, 04-25-2007 06:54:42  
i never minded milking cows when i was 25 years younger unless chicago bears were playing football or was colder than hill and had to go out with spreader on john deere b. i soon realized you don't earn much money working as a hired man.



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n8terry

04-25-2007 08:22:37




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 Re: are the good times really f over for good in reply to northeast puller 1, 04-25-2007 06:54:42  
My comment on this from the way I see it-----

Folks on the farm are way less dependent on each other now than in the 40's and 50's. It used to be that you had to depend on your neighbor to survive. You had to have more than one person to have a threshing crew.

In the area where I am familiar, neighbors don't get along well anymore, they are now more independent. Its like, if I can get my wife to drive the truck, we can get this harvest job done without anyone elses help.

About the milking, I never got excited about doing the milking in the dark the old fashioned way. We only milked 3 cows maximum, I know you will get a kick out of that! Looking back, I am glad that I experienced it though.

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rrlund

04-25-2007 07:21:36




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 Re: are the good times really f over for good in reply to northeast puller 1, 04-25-2007 06:54:42  
Well,yes and no. Those days are over,but as for there ever being good times milking cows,I don't know about that. The only good thing about it was the time I spent with my kids while doing it,but there was so much of their lives that I missed out on while they were too young to be there milking with me.Times that we will never get back. Milking was a misserable job that quite often had us on edge and at eachothers throats while we were doing it. Both boys quit farming because they didn't want to be tied to the cows. I sold them three and a half years ago,now I have a good sized herd of Angus and finish their calves. The boys don't mind helping me with them,in fact the older boy wants to farm again now and wants cattle of his own. Yes,I sure miss having close neighbors who help each other out and have friendly little competitions now and then,but no sense dwelling on the past. I have more time to spend now with my now adult kids and grand kids,so life is good.

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