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O/T...Pipe Lines...

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jmh

04-16-2007 18:55:02




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Just how far can a pipe line go to get a easement across someones property? Will they actually take you to court? They got on my property (without permission) doing the survey. Told them to get off. They later came and ask "how much" to come across the place with their pipe line. I gave them a figure and they left. Later they ask for about 500 yards more right-a-way. They were told that would be O.K. for the amount I first told them. First check they brought by was a third of the price I gave them. The next check was 2/3 of what I ask. Whats a person to do? Do they play these games with everyone they deal with? Need some input from you guys..... .....

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jmh

04-21-2007 17:47:45




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
Thank you guys for all the input. I met with the pipeline rep and came to a settlement. They will pay $105,000.00 to cross the place. This does not include damages. Just have to work the details out now. Would rather not have the thing crossing the place. I guess this is the cost of progress.

Thanks again, jmh



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buickanddeere

04-17-2007 13:59:03




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
Hold you nose and visit a weasel/lier/crook/lawyer. Being what they usually are, they can smell out a good deal or a fellow crook. Get it all in writing and signed-stamped six ways to Sunday. Cheaper in the long run too.....



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ironsales

04-17-2007 06:07:59




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
sounds like oyu got mixed in with a bunch of crooks, when the pipe line can in on our place, they came and talked to my grandparents, they told them that they could put their stuff on oour place they came back and offered to buy 50 yards on each side of they use, and 50 yards around the tank battery pads, every time they get a truck out of their owned space they cut a check,i'd check with other companies in your area, and see what they would pay

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two mile

04-17-2007 05:54:46




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
Be prepared for permanent frustration. I am sure that there are good pipeline companies, but my experience has been that they all play similar games. Locally, we had an old line that was originally 60' right of way. When the company decided that wasn't adequate they increased it to 100' with no additional compensation. They claimed that the original contracts gave them the authority to protect their pipe, and the additional easment was within their rights. It was a taking in my opinion. These same companies change ownership often, and they utilize subcontractors so that the liabilities are not direct. It is difficult to know who you are dealing with. As far as use of the land goes, once that land is excavated it never returns to the same level of productivity that it had before, and they have more rights to the land than you do but taxes are still your responsibility. When they have a problem your crop is just a something else for them to fix. it doesn't matter if it is too muddy or if you would be able to harvest in two weeks, they want access and they will do what they want. On the positive side they are fairly generous with damages.

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MarkB_MI

04-17-2007 03:02:07




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
Your experience is much different from mine. We have a large, interstate pipeline crossing the corner of our property. They recently purchased additional right-of-way to add another line. They were very generous with their payments and I had no problems with them.

It is rare for a pipeline company to reroute a planned line because of landowner objections. You are probably far better trying to work things out with them. They have far deeper pockets than you do; you really don't want to go to court.

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midwest redneck

04-17-2007 08:59:12




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-17-2007 03:02:07  
WHere in Spr. field twp. are you at? What type of pipe line are you talking about.?



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MarkB_MI

04-17-2007 15:03:07




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to midwest redneck, 04-17-2007 08:59:12  
Hey Redneck,

I should have mentioned that the property in question is about 1100 miles west of here in eastern Colorado.

But while we're on the subject, there is a big gas pipeline through White Lake Twp that a bunch of homeowners managed to get rerouted. They even got them to disguise the compressor station as a barn, complete with silos. Next time you go down Duck Lake Road you'll see it, just north of Commerce Road (if I remember right).

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Midwest redneck

04-17-2007 02:25:21




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
Is the pipe above ground like a utility pipe for natural gas or something, or underground. What amount did you tell them.?



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Coloken

04-16-2007 19:50:56




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
For me they were great. Contracts and money all done first to my satisfaction. Every time they were going to be on the place they called first to let me know. Built gates where needed. Leveled all ground and reseeded grass in a first rate manner. Can't tell it is there except for the money in my bank. BTW: was a 36 incher.



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Sid

04-16-2007 19:27:26




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  
From what I have observed over the years, I think it will pay you to set down with a Co. rep. and let him know your concerns. That is what Dad did and they paid better and took more care when crossing our farm than they did a lot of places. They went to great pains to leave the land as Dad wanted. Over the years they have been very good about letting Dad know when they were going to be on the place and what they were going to do. One landowner in the area was not going to let them run over him and had the money to fight them and go to court. He was going to show "you fools" how to deal with them. The court settlement was for less than the original offer was when they first approached him.

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KEH

04-16-2007 19:05:17




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 Re: O/T...Pipe Lines... in reply to jmh, 04-16-2007 18:55:02  

Get a local lawyer. Money well spent. I think he will tell you that since they have made a counter offer you are free to increase your asking price. This might get their attention.

KEH



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