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Allan In NE

03-27-2007 18:25:13




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Finally, after all these months, I went and drug home this old baler. Looks to be in fine shape except for a pickup wheel arm that needs to be straightened.

I didn't realize the things were that darned big!

Now, the Cowman says he pulls his with a turboed 666 and that they don't pull that hard. Guess that makes it what? About 80 horse or so?

Never known him to to be wrong, but I gotta tell ya, that old brute is big and it is heavy! Darned chain alone must weigh a good thousand pounds!

The tongue weight really surprised me and the Powerstroke snorted a little when we took off with that sucker following along behind.

Anyhoo, it's here. Now to hurry up and get it ready fer hay.

Allan

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Formerly PaMike

03-28-2007 09:23:12




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
I have an 852. Makes the same size bale but uses the springs instead of air bags. Man, that is a heavy baler. We run it on a 656 and its all she wants on hilly ground. Good thing you got a bigger loader tractor...



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Rich Va

03-28-2007 04:36:52




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
Hey Allen,you got enough stuff around there now you can start your very own equipment dealership.



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williamf

03-28-2007 01:03:48




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
Allan, I've lived in apartments smaller than that machine.
Good Luck, Wm



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Cliff Neubauer

03-27-2007 19:05:40




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
I've got a friend who's running an 850 or 851 behind a 4440 but they ran it with a 4020 for years, I think he's using the 4440 for the cab as much as anything.



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Steven@AZ

03-27-2007 18:52:17




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
Sorry, Allan, I've just never been a fan of the old chain balers... but they will make a nice bale if you know how to run them.



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Allan In NE

03-27-2007 19:39:24




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Steven@AZ, 03-27-2007 18:52:17  
Yeah I know. Lots of people don't like 'em.

However,I just cannot see giving John Deere $45,000 for a baler. Just does not compute to my way of thinking and I can make these old chainers last longer than I. :>)

Allan



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Steven@AZ

03-27-2007 19:57:55




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 19:39:24  
Yeah, Dad checked on a new JD - they quoted him $48,000 with the net wrap, the New Holland was $42,000 or so. He said we can put a couple hundred bucks in our old CIH 3650 and get another year or two out of her!

Do you stop the PTO to let the bale out? Our neighbors have them chainers and claim the twine will cut/break if you don't stop the PTO to let 'em out...



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Allan In NE

03-28-2007 01:57:25




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Steven@AZ, 03-27-2007 19:57:55  
Wonder if maybe your neighbor's machine is one of those earlier models with the floor chains? Seems to me that I had to do that long ago on the first 851s that came out.

These later outfits spin the bale with a big roller located in behind the pickup and incorporate a mechanism that shuts off the big chain/roller when the tailgate opens. So, the PTO just stays on all the time.

As soon as that door latches closed, the mechanics of the baler will automatically start running again on it's own.

The only bad press I've ever heard against the 855 is that if a guy lets that bale get upwards of 1700 lbs and then "cowboys" the machine across rough terrain, the axle can bend downward in the middle and it will then cause the tires to start wearing on the inside edges.

Allan

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Steven@AZ

03-28-2007 06:46:27




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-28-2007 01:57:25  
Yep, that was it -- the older model with floor chain. Thanks for clearing that up for me, I've learned something today!



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Glenn F.

03-27-2007 18:39:09




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:25:13  
I know next to nothing about round bailers, but how is this one different than the one you patched up last year? Bigger...Better?

Glenn



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Billy NY

03-27-2007 18:51:14




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Glenn F., 03-27-2007 18:39:09  
I remember the extensive amount of work you did to the one you had last year, is this the replacement ?

PS; that 966 looks great !



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Allan In NE

03-27-2007 18:46:50




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Glenn F., 03-27-2007 18:39:09  
Yeah,

I needed another baler like I needed another hole in the head, but this one was so cheap and in such good condition that I just couldn't pass it up.

No, it's not a better baler, but it sure as heck is a bigger one. Think it is next to the biggest chainer that New Holland ever made.

Allan



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Billy NY

03-27-2007 19:25:47




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 18:46:50  
I'll bet you'll go over it with fine tooth comb, like the other one, which was impressive to see how you got it field ready, but what the heck, nice to have back up when the hay is down, money well spent. Around here, fresh cut hay seems to attract 2 things rain and the baler screwin up ! I do remember this old IH baler that used to take up that slack when the ole 532 ford threw a fit, I swear my father was gonna shoot that 532 one day, but that old IH used to save the day everytime, sad though, it's got trees growin out of it now !

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Allan In NE

03-27-2007 19:33:10




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Billy NY, 03-27-2007 19:25:47  
Yeah,

That little one is running like a new watch and I'll use it for a backup this year in case this one goes south on me.

Dunno tho, this outfit looks to be in pretty good shape. Hardly any paint off that pickup.

And with a #100 roller chain as the apron, it's gonna take a pretty big tree to plug this rascal, I'm thinkin'. :>)

Allan



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Glenn F.

03-27-2007 20:00:21




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 Re: Grunt! in reply to Allan In NE, 03-27-2007 19:33:10  
How many bales do you figure on baling per year?

Glenn



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