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don't want to roll it !!!!!

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boberg

03-17-2007 17:03:12




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i just got an allis "b". what grade is safe ?




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jmixigo

03-18-2007 10:53:14




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
You (we all) have a finely tuned incline-O-meter built in. It'll be located inside your shorts. When it gets real tight real fast then it's too steep for you. Maybe another feller can handle more slope than you, an that's fine. Despite the pucker meter however steep pond banks are best avoided, unless you want yore wife to collect yore life insurance.

When in doubt steer down hill, an try somethin different.

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Roy Suomi

03-18-2007 07:06:35




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
When I was service manager at a Deere dealer in NE Ohio , we had a 410-B with the sideshift backhoe and straight up and down stabilizers in the shop..The technician was checking for a hydraulic oil leak at the backhoe control valve..He pulled the shrouding around the backhoe valve up and started the engine...Well , the backhoe was pivoted to the side so the machine could be backed up to the work benches....This machine started and proceded to put down pressure on the backhoe bucket . Needless to say , "Scooter" did the walk inside the cab..I was outside talking to a customer when I heard the crashing noise..When I saw the hoe , the machine was lying on it's side..It smashed into a wooden work table and took out some side glass and lights..The only damage....It shook up " Scooter" pretty bad when it started to move , he didn't think to shut off the key....10 minutes later with a 590-D excavator , we were able to right the machine...So , Don't take anything for granted..Be safe , If you have a hillside next to a pond , you will have to take into account for soft ground , high center of gravity , plus other variables..A friend of mine recently bought an old Case tractor with a boom mower. [ former county roadside mower].With this tractor he can mow around ponds , behind fences....

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riverbend

03-18-2007 07:01:49




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
The technical answer is that you have to keep the center of gravity of the tractor inside a line between the front and rear wheels. I'm most comfortable keeping the top of the hood inside that line. Like others have said, don't do anything that you are uncomfortable with.

BTW, a 4:1 slope, if that is rise over run, is too steep.



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steve n carol

03-17-2007 23:17:30




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
Thats a loded question...how do you answer that?
I read here last night wher a man was killed when his tractor rolled while he was mowing a pond bank.

I could figure it out....BUT, I have to know ALL of the variables. Center of gravity, tire pressures and sizes, widths, heights, weights, size of the operator, with & w/o a load in his pants, etc.

like the man said, you could roll it on flat ground....I should set my wheels/rims on the widest setting I can. Can you do this w/anallis b?

keep the loader down, if you have one. Keep tire pressures up. Low pressures improve traction and the ride, but can be fatal on a slope...sl

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crackersanders

03-17-2007 18:58:40




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
With water in the tires a safe angle is 4:1 slope but you need to be comfortable or nothing will work for you. Go slow!



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tractormiallis

03-17-2007 18:52:06




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
well, what do you plan on doing with it? How steep of property will it be operated on? Basically, go up and down steep slopes, stay off ones you might be leery of runing on.



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Mike M

03-17-2007 18:49:48




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 Re: don't want to roll it !!!!! in reply to boberg , 03-17-2007 17:03:12  
Nothing is safe -- really, you can roll them on the level if things go really wrong.



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